Was James Paul at SgtPepper Party?

[Perplexed]

Click here:

www.nemsworld.com/beatles/

then click on the sgt pepper photo session link.

Look over all these new pictures. My friends, as I live and breathe, I just have to tell you, I think that Paul and Faul (i.e.Bill) are in both in these pictures. Not at the same time, but look at al of them. It is as if Bill got in the picture for some, then left and let Paul pose in a few. I mean, this is shocking. See for yourself. Like, this was the day of transition, right here. Paul was saying goodbye, Bill was saying hello. Check it out.

Amazing picture collection.

[TotalInformation]

Wishful thinking -- sleep deprivation?

JPM is nowhere to be seen.

(He was dead at the time.)

[Perplexed]

totalinformation said:

Wishful thinking -- sleep deprivation?

JPM is nowhere to be seen.

(He was dead at the time.)

Sleep deprivation? Of course. Why sleep when I can worry about something?

Just look at all the pictures on that page.

Total, it IS possible that James Paul is alive somewhere.

It could be that he merely wants to have a private life, a life away from the headaches that fame brought.

Isn't that conceivable?

Death could have been merely a metaphor for dropping out of one life, into another, a life of solitude and quiet. Maybe a life with Sylvie. Maybe not.
Really, won't you consider the possibility?
Why dead? Why not retired?

[TotalInformation]

Just look at all the pictures on that page.

Done and done. All Sir Faul.

conceivable?

Certainly; the likelihood approaches 0, however. And the fact that he appears in none of those photos is just part of that calculation.

Now *you* conceive that he was BRUTALLY MURDERED for defying the agendae of the powers that be, with probability approaching 100% and work from that assumption when putting your talents to use so as not to waste time on such flights of fancy as on this thread.

[Perplexed]

totalinformation said:

Just look at all the pictures on that page.

Done and done. All Sir Faul.

conceivable?

Certainly; the likelihood approaches 0, however. And the fact that he appears in none of those photos is just part of that calculation.

Now *you* conceive that he was BRUTALLY MURDERED for defying the agendae of the powers that be, with probability approaching 100% and work from that assumption when putting your talents to use so as not to waste time on such flights of fancy as on this thread.

We are never thouroughly sure till we ask.

I submit that James Paul McCartney may yet be alive and breathing, and I herewith do what nobody else will seemingly dare to do, and I request that if he is alive and breathing, would he please come forth right now on this internet discussion board, and show himself to us by posting?

Would Paul post to us here at TKIN and nir, please?

Why has no one asked all these years?

If he doesn't post, he's dead.

[Jilli]

I have wondered that myself Doc. These pictures are from the site Doc has at the top of this page:

www.nemsworld.com/beatles/

The picture on the couch with John's legs over Ringo, in that picture it looks like Paul



and the one just before that looks like Faul.



You can see the difference in the noses. On this post the picture above Paul has a full nose. In the bottom picture Faul has that pinched nose look. I think Faul has adenoids. They give the face that pinched nose look. I havent see that look on Paul.

but I have seen pictures where Faul looks like Paul and this might be one of them. I am convinced that Sylvie is alive. Im getting the information together for that post as well....and now that I know how to post pictures it will be sooner better then later.

oh one more thing I noticed about these pictures is that Paul always dressed really nice... and the guy on this web page gives you the impression he doesnt give a shit what his clothes look like.

[Paul Bearer]

In a word - doctoring. Don't be fooled.

[Ludwig]

jilli said:

I have wondered that myself Doc. These pictures are from the site Doc has at the top of this page:

www.nemsworld.com/beatles/

The picture on the couch with John's legs over Ringo, in that picture it looks like Paul

Yes, this pic looks doctored to me. If you look at his face long enough it starts to look out of place. Almost like it was an outside photo originally.

[byrdsmaniac]

But why would they have done that?
It only draws attention to the differences!
Both men wearing the same clothes. Right.

[Perplexed]

byrdsmaniac said:

But why would they have done that?
It only draws attention to the differences!
Both men wearing the same clothes. Right.

Well, the appearance of the face draws attention to it, too, why did they do that? I don't see how anyone could not see at least a major difference of weight, of "cheekiness", smile or no smile. He is gaunter in some pics than others---that usually doesn't happen overnight.

[byrdsmaniac]

This has to be something "they" WANT you to notice;
the pictorial equivalent of "Dig It".
You're supposed to say, "Hey, that guy isn't Paul anymore!"
And then, who knows?
"I don't think that's really John either!", etc.
And so, what message does this send?
a. Don't be a rock star, because you'll be replaced whenever "they" feel like it.
b. Don't be a movie star, because you'll be replaced whenever "they" feel like it.
But if you're someone who should be replaced, like...oh let's see....
Bush and Cheney!....nope, sorry; can't be done.
So the message is: "Dude, you're f***ed!"
I guess. That seems to be the message.
Or maybe, on a slightly more cosmic level, the intended message is that we all get to "be" certain people in the "play".
So just as "Paul" is JPM, but then Dino, and then Faul,
in "the game of life" we can incarnate as one person, but the next performance someone else gets the role.
Are you perplexed? No! Perplexed is Perlexed!
But maybe next time the wheel spins and "the game 'existence' is played until 'THE END',"
Perplexed gets to be Byrdsmaniac ,
Jojo gets to be the DeZombificator, and I, well
I get to be John Lennon! (Dibs!)
"You get to be Yoko!" the casting agent shouts from the wings.
Is that the right word, the "wings"? "Stage left" and "stage right" are they "the wings"?
I'm not much of a performer, and I don't get aroun much anymore.
Anyway maybe THAT's supposed to be the message.
And in the mean time "they" get to kill, replace, spindle and mutilate
whoever comes in a role "they" think might get in the way of
what "they" want to do,
which is why we still have Bush and Cheney, but not John and Paul.
("By George! I think he's got it!" someone says.)
Who said that?!
They don't like him, the fool.
Paul: "I ain't no fool, and I don't take what I don't want!"
(Exit: stage left the building)

(End ACT ONE).

[TotalInformation]

This has to be something "they" WANT you to notice;

Or, of the dozens of shots published on the website, only the handful that were published at the time were doctored. Decades later, they just put out the raw prints without even bothering to doctor them. Like the CD booklet for Pepper.

[TotalInformation]

Or his surgery to date had been optimized for 2-D resemblance

[Perplexed]

totalinformation said:

Or his surgery to date had been optimized for 2-D resemblance

Actually, Funny you should say that. I have thought about the idea of how depth or not having depth in a photgraph interplays with this whole idea.

[Perplexed]

jilli said:

I have wondered that myself Doc. These pictures are from the site Doc has at the top of this page:

www.nemsworld.com/beatles/

The picture on the couch with John's legs over Ringo, in that picture it looks like Paul



and the one just before that looks like Faul.



You can see the difference in the noses. On this post the picture above Paul has a full nose. In the bottom picture Faul has that pinched nose look. I think Faul has adenoids. They give the face that pinched nose look. I havent see that look on Paul.

but I have seen pictures where Faul looks like Paul and this might be one of them. I am convinced that Sylvie is alive. Im getting the information together for that post as well....and now that I know how to post pictures it will be sooner better then later.

oh one more thing I noticed about these pictures is that Paul always dressed really nice... and the guy on this web page gives you the impression he doesnt give a sh*t what his clothes look like.

In those photos, to me it appears that George, bless his heart! (a good Southern expression) is pretty well stoned. The Garfield eyes, the detached expression, the laxity of posture (while appearing to attempt to "sit up")......

I could be wrong. It's OK with me if he was. The stress, sweety darling, you know, the stress. (Pronounce like Adina Monsoon on 'Absolutely Fabulous.")

[Perplexed]

totalinformation said:

This has to be something "they" WANT you to notice;

Or, of the dozens of shots published on the website, only the handful that were published at the time were doctored. Decades later, they just put out the raw prints without even bothering to doctor them. Like the CD booklet for Pepper.

That must be true. I've seen a few, real "Fauler's" floating around on some of these stray sites.
I've started a "Fall" Collection. I have a Pall collection too. Very indiscriminate. They'll just put up any old, slender-faced, pre-surgery black and white pictures up on the net, nowadays. Meow!

At least, een za old dehz, zey vere much mowah carrrrefuhl vid da angles, ja.

;D

[byrdsmaniac]

perplexed said:

Total, it IS possible that James Paul is alive somewhere.

Why dead? Why not retired?

If he doesn't post, he's dead.

Paul, We're waiting.....

But Doc, you have to admit:

"The eagle picks my eye
The worm he licks my bone
I feel so suicidal
Just like Dylan's Mr. Jones
Lonely wanna die
If I ain't dead already
Ooh girl you know the reason why. "

sounds pretty dead. Maybe not [glow=red,2,300]really really dead,[/glow] but pretty freakin' dead.

"If I ain't dead already
Ooh girl you know the reason why"
would have to mean that his being "alive" was due to the efforts
of others making him appear to be.
(Think "Weekend At Bernie's".)

And how he can still "feel suicidal"? His spirit.
imltho*.

*"In my less than humble opinion"

[foolonthehill]

The real genius is having Faul shave off his tache for the party, so that he now looks far more like a Fab Four moptop than the others!!!

To the casual onlooker at the time 'Paul' would have looked the most normal of all of them...

[TheAquaOne]

I noticed the "shaving Faul" aspect too, in order to make him seem different from the rest more like classic Paul. Faul also has Ringo's hand on his shoulder in some shots (Why not John or George?) and when the boys are clowning around it's John, Ringo & George. Faul is on the end kind of out of place.

[sweetlorettamartin]

The pic of the Beatles with JOhn's legs over Ringo, that area around Faul looks like he was added to the picture, where the rest look like they were actually together. So that tells me the photo was doctored. Where as the bottom pic, untouched, fully Faul...looks like he's with the rest of the group at the photo together.

Sublte differences that means a great deal when searching for clues.

[unrepentant]

one of my favorite talking points for PID is the way paul suddenly, begining with SGT. PEPPER, became the centerpiece. it was HIM facing away on the PEPPER photo, HIM barefoot crossing the street on the ABBEY ROAD cover, HIM who was the center of the "replacement" story in 1969......on and on. james paul was never one to upstage another beatle, least of all john.

it's not just two different people, it's two different philosophies.

and on and on it goes, where it stops knowbody nose.

let's not forget, we are nearing the 40th anniversary of the man's death.

[defhermit]

I think people haven't asked James Paul to post because we don't want anymore people posting as John, Paul, etc or claiming that the dead Beatles are coming to them in their dreams or they "hear their voice".

I don't think "Bless his heart" is a southern term. The women in my family all say that, and my family has never lived outside of New York, New Jersey or Philadelphia.

[Perplexed]

Agreed. But, I had myself another dream last night, and I don't claim it has any meaning.
I dreamed that I was out of town, in what city I don't remember, and myself and a companion
came across a actual video shoot in progress. It was billy, and he had recorded a song, a up-tempo rocker, that had to do with race-cars.We stood off to the side, watching a number of takes, and as the a pre-recorded audio filled the air, billy would lip-synch to a song about race cars, or it seemed to be about them. A camera swung in on a rig from up high as he jumped out of something like a Z-car. The lyrics were something about how fast cars and speed were OK, but they couldn't compare to love itself.

They kept redoing this set-up/take. The director wanted a perfect shot for the opening line of the vocal.

billy's eyes scanned across the crowd gathered (at a little distance, behind those saw-horse barrier things) , with a sweeping arm motion, each time they did the take. The last take they did, he swept across the direction where my friend and I were standing, and seemed to sort of wink at us, his eyes twinkling, radiant. Of course, that is just part of show-biz.

But, I was stunned, but smiled back and kinda laughed and said to my friend, "He knows about the websites and he is saying that it's OK, it doesn't matter."

My friend in the dream was someone I haven't seen in 5 years, who is very smart, but cynical and dry-witted. He replied:

"Don't be silly. At this distance, we are a blur. Besides, don't you realize that you are asleep and that this is only a dream...dream...dream...dream...dream...eam...eam...eam...m...m...m.m...(uh)........

As the 'artificial dream reverb' trailed off from his voice, the way that it always does as you awaken from a dream, I found myself blearing up at my clock radio, which was beeping incessantly with the radio blaring on some music station.

Blearing, beeping, and blaring. Now that's just how I love to wake up.

Anyway, there is a lot more, but when I don't write dreams down as soon s I wake up, all the details fade away.

But it just seemed like he was his old self again (whatever that is, how would I know?) and back in high, zesty spirits.

[Jilli]

Posted by defhermit: (I don't think "Bless his heart" is a southern term. The women in my family all say that, and my family has never lived outside of New York, New Jersey or Philadelphia. )

Actually "Bless his Heart" is most likely a southern term adopted by the north. (you can't have all the fun Doc. )

at this web page:
www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-0525949712-0

this is a book called "Bless His Heart: The Grits Guide to Loving (or Just Living With) Southern Men"
by Deborah Ford

on this web page:
radio.weblogs.com/0107946/stories/2004/05/23/blessHisHeartOrHowToSpeakLikeANative.html

"Bless his heart, or how to speak like a native"
by Edward Cone (who is from Greensboro, North Carolina.)

(Another insult, although velveted and used by the sweetest-sounding ladies, is "bless his heart," meaning, "I agree with the unkind thing you have just said but do not wish to say so myself." )

this web page:
www.geocities.com/Heartland/Creek/2177/BlessYourHeart.html

(Someone once noted that a Southerner
can get away with the most awful kind of insult
just as long as it's prefaced with the words
"Bless her heart" or "Bless his heart."
As in, "Bless his heart, if they put his brain on the head of a pin,
it'd roll around like a BB on a six-lane highway.)

Bless your hearts.

(just kidding ;D)

[defhermit]

Those two links just show that the term is popular in the south, not that it originated there.