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Post by Perplexed on Nov 1, 2003 4:17:20 GMT
On another post I told of my moms bout with transient ischemia of the bowel, and how they removed so much and she now has an ileostomy.
Well, they waited 9! days to do the first operation. She had necrotic tissue and her intestines were choking off (in process) for a while. She was 72 years old when it happened. SO, you see, one can live on for a while even in the middle of a grave attack of this type in the bowel. Not always, perhaps, appendicitus will get you fast! (maybe to consider Paul had an appendix problem. Also read about the actual full circumstances of Houdini dying. It wasn't just the blow to the stomach. His appendix burst ultimately. He lived several days after the famous punch.)
The disheartening thought is, that maybe he perished from exposure, extreme de-hydration. How unpleasant!! It could have been days. I hate to say this-but it can be a very slow thing. The real disturbing details THEN becomes the alleged burning of the legs. I stop this post-----any more would be too dreadful to read.
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Post by LongJohn on Nov 5, 2003 18:55:27 GMT
i watched a documentary a few days ago that said that bowel related diseases can be treated with hypnosis... i'm sure you know this kind of therapy has been used for a long time. does anyone know what kind of treatment did paul have??
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Post by RitaLolo on Nov 6, 2003 19:09:08 GMT
BE CAREFUL!!!!! It is necessary to try of not all to confuse! !!! I know well the subject for I have me intestinal even a disease. First of all the hypnose cannot heal although be itself!!! for the intestinal diseases it is necessary effective treatments for example of the anti inflammatoires,immunodepresseurs of the anti diarrheas, dice times one takes medicines by infused or catheter. ... When to Paul I do not know this that happened but in my opinion if it goes an intestinal disease this is not that that the has to kill without to have had a terrible crises of diarrheas or a hemorrhage? why let not us remain on the track of the empoissement?
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Post by RitaLolo on Nov 7, 2003 9:01:14 GMT
This is at me to ecxuse me LongJohn! !!! I had poorly read your sentence! !!! ecxuse me then. It is true that one can use the hypnose to try of calm one the disease but also relaxation meetings one can take courses of yoga just as well on!!!
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Post by Darkhorse on Nov 8, 2003 2:06:12 GMT
The mind can heal the body.
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Post by pennylane on Nov 8, 2003 15:47:34 GMT
The mind can heal the body. Darkhorse is right... the mind is a very powerful tool and if used correctly can heal almost everything in the body. Hypnosis, meditation, crystals and yoga are just some of the tools used for this purpose and combined with faith and love they are very effective
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Post by Eggman on Nov 8, 2003 16:01:43 GMT
Spanky is right!!!! I can swear it!!!
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Post by TheWatusi on Nov 8, 2003 17:53:57 GMT
Spanky, Eggman, and Darkhorse are ALL 100% right!
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Post by Chris on Nov 25, 2003 19:23:29 GMT
I was wondering if anyone would mind if we closed this thread. It really is not proving anything. And it is defaming poor Paul. Even if the guy had IBS, who's to say that he wore nappies ( diapers ). Maybe he was having an extremely bad day & it never happened again. Who knows I think we've discussed this subject enough. I think we should close the thread. Any objections ? Chris
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Post by TotalInformation on Nov 26, 2003 6:46:13 GMT
This is research, people. If you can't handle the subject matter, kindly don't log on that particular thread and allow the research to continue among those with stronger constitutions.
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Post by Perplexed on Nov 27, 2003 19:19:18 GMT
An inelegant topic, to say the least.
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Post by xpt626 on Nov 27, 2003 20:59:09 GMT
If someone wanted to discuss your bowels in an open forum.... I've discussed mine here ;D with all due respect, the murders of Paul and Brian are the "unpleasant" subject(s), not someone's (possible) medical condition...
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Post by pennylane on Nov 28, 2003 2:19:04 GMT
I agree XPT.. there are a lot of subjects on the forum that could be classed as objectionable by some/most but the fact is that it all comes back to one thing, the evidence, and every piece of evidence must be looked at regardless of how upsetting or distastful it may be.
The fact remains, if we close this one thread and the other about the Doctor we will be opening a floodgate for others to want threads closed too.
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Post by yellowmatter on Nov 28, 2003 10:55:54 GMT
Ok fair enough Spanky i see your point. However i do believe that the David Wilmot MD thread should be closed simply due to the dubious (at best) evidence presented. Sorry but hard evidence only people
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Post by pennylane on Nov 28, 2003 14:21:32 GMT
their are over 1100 threads on this forum i'd say at least half of them are of a dubious nature.. should we lock all those too?
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Post by Chris on Nov 28, 2003 14:45:54 GMT
Spanky- of course not. However, this thread is really not going to prove anything one way or another. I honestly feel that if Paul had a say, he'd say CLOSE THE THREAD. WHO CARES IF I SH*T MYSELF !!!! If anyone knows ANYTHING about Paul, they'd know that he was usually a rather quiet chap. He kept to himself as much as possible. Look at him in most of the interview footage. More times then not he had either his arms, or his arms & legs crossed. He used ALOT of defensive posturing. This is because he HATED BEING THERE. He had gotten VERY TIRED of being in the spotlight !!! Sorry people. I don't mean to be inelegant or disrespectful. I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone else. It's just that it really is a rather touchy subject for me. I suffer from IBS frequently. If Paul had anything like I have, it really should NOT be a subject of discussion. There have to be BETTER ways to prove that he's not Bill. I just posted something under the Faul section about the discrepancy between their heights & the way the two men are built. I think this is a much more positive direction to go to find the truth !!!! Paul was maybe 5ft. 7 or 8 in. Tall. Bill is 6ft tall or more. BIG difference !!!! Bill has wide shoulders with a narrow waist & noticeable hips. Paul was straight up & down from under his shoulders to his thighs. His shoulders weren't very wide either. They have different body types !!! Love to all.... Chris ;D
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Post by yellowmatter on Nov 28, 2003 15:12:42 GMT
No Spanky we shouldn't close all the other threads - that would be ridiculous. However the other threads are not "dubious" evidence. The doctor thread is. How can you compare a good old fasioned facial comparison to an email which has very possibly been faked. Think man, think!
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Post by pennylane on Nov 28, 2003 15:17:10 GMT
first off.. i'm not a man... first time i've been accused of that ;D ;D ;D ;D
and all i'm saying is it comes down to free speach.. enough said
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Post by yellowmatter on Nov 28, 2003 15:28:07 GMT
fair enough - appologies about the gender mix up by the way:P
Yes, it's true , free speach should be and is allowed ;D ;D
However i believe (and it's my opinion by the way , i am not forcing it down anyone's throats) that it would be pointless and time wasting to continue with the doctor thread.
It is simply annoyingly unsubstantiated evidence and i don't feel that it is productive to try and work it out any further.
You are well within your right to discuss it but your brain power would be far more useful applied to another thread of the site.
Thank you.
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Post by pennylane on Nov 28, 2003 15:34:33 GMT
i find some of the threads a waste of my time and when that happens i choose not even to bother with them.. hence my brain power intact.. i feel everyone else has the same option.. closing a thread is denying someone else from voicing their opinion regardless of whether you feel its relevant. i see that as denying free speach... but hey what do i know
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Post by xpt626 on Nov 29, 2003 0:51:42 GMT
I remember the "Faul's penis" thread being closed...then re-opened due to popular demand ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Chris on Dec 1, 2003 18:56:22 GMT
;Dxpt - EEEEWWWWWWWW !!!!! The last thing I want to look at is Bill's nasty looking thingey !!! Especially now at his advanced age. To reiterate - EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I can't stop ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D !!!!!!!!!!! A VERY cheeky.... Chris ;D
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Post by Forum Manager on Dec 2, 2003 17:46:59 GMT
let the record show, that this thread was closed becuase of it being offensive in nature. and also to honor the great james paul mccartney. any complaints can be sent to me via private message. thank you. ~number 9
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Post by pennylane on Dec 2, 2003 17:57:25 GMT
i think you made a mistake in doing that number 9
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