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Post by zeleny on Aug 29, 2003 0:30:16 GMT
Can someone tell me what is going on with Paul's face in this pic?
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Post by peggysue on Aug 29, 2003 9:22:00 GMT
He appears to be melting. I always thought he was hot, but not hot enough to actually melt.
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Post by Eggman on Aug 29, 2003 12:56:35 GMT
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Aug 29, 2003 23:58:16 GMT
Shape-shifting aliens pretending to be John and Paul
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Post by pennylane on Aug 30, 2003 0:03:00 GMT
too much david icke.. ;D
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Post by PaulBearer on Aug 30, 2003 3:49:04 GMT
That hazy Adelaide heat! ;D
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Post by victor on Aug 31, 2003 4:05:55 GMT
heckle and jeckle!
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Aug 31, 2003 12:49:47 GMT
Wow Victor! I had that exact same thought when I saw this picture in 1964!
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Post by Provincial on Sept 5, 2003 13:46:46 GMT
Seems like it might be a distorted picture. Probably unintentional too as it might simply have been a printing or rerpoduction error.
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Post by Provincial on Sept 5, 2003 13:56:00 GMT
Response to: byrdsmaniac & spanky. Well the assertion of shape shifting reptilian aliens did not start with David Icke. These therories go back to other sources. In fact Icke himself has never claimed to have seen one himself, though he does relate an odd experience during a meeting he had (during his days working in television) with former British Prime Minister Edward Heath. (Heath being alleged as one of the reptilian shape shifters). Much of his information on the matter comes from a one Arizona Wilder & was initially related in his controversial book: The Biggest Secret. Aside from this seemingly outlandish theory of shape shifting reptilian aliens he postulates: The Biggest Secret in an excellent book full of intricate information detailing the origins of the European royal (alleged reptilian) families / the elite / powerful & the roles they have played in the shaping of an elitist global agenda which is playing out in a great number of countries around the world. Though: He really should have had a better editor. Some spelling errors such as Project "Paperdip". In fact it was called Project Paperclip. He also covers a lot of diparate things such as Hollow Earth theory, Alien intervention theory, JFK & Princess Diana assasination theories, The Illuninati & their control & prevalent symbolism, Satanic rituals in govenment theories as well. All of which I had known about before as he appears to rehash a lot of things which have been previously uncovered or covered by others, but he does go quite in depth into some of them such as the royal ancestry & their offspring. One of the theories that Icke advances at any rate claims that those with the highest amount of reptilian ancestry (also Royal ancestry as the Royal families are alleged to be of reptilian alien descent) are placed into positions of power. Which he claims is directed behind the scenes by spiritul beings in the "lower fourth dimension" who control the reptilians & their agenda. According to what I have read concerning Icke's beliefs on the matter: it also would appear that a number of so called reptilians are not even aware that they are reptilians & that they might be manipulated into " shape-shifting" & engaging in Satanic rituals -including sacrifice-in an altered state of consciousness. Thus it also stands to reason that anyone -even in the entertainemt industry such as The Beatles- who is used as part of the "reptilian agenda" -also Globalist agenda- will also likely have at least some reptilain ancestry in order that they can be more easily maipulated to achieve the goals set by the elite. So in order to apply Ickeian theory correctly here: one would have to say that the picture above in question does not show shape-shifters "posing" as John & Paul, but rather John & Paul (& the Beatles in general) were shape-shifters from the start. Note: Since I have not seen much concrete evidence in support of this outlandish alien based theory it is difficult to accept it, though considering the odd things that politicians & the rulling elite in general seem to do I suppose nothing can be rulled out. Note: David Icke also appears to base his (second hand account) theory concerning this matter on the findings made by Zecharia Sitchin. ( www.sitchin.com ) Sitchin is credited with deceiphering the messages on the Sumerian tablets which he claims mentions alien intervention in the creation of the human race. Sitchin is an expert in a number of the ancient languages indigenous to the local region.
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Post by LongJohn on Sept 5, 2003 14:14:46 GMT
that's been obviously modified! even i can do that with the photoshop!
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Sept 6, 2003 1:23:27 GMT
No Long John, that's how it looked in 1964 too. I remember it. I'm not saying image isn't distorted, but there was no Photoshop in those days.
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Post by LongJohn on Sept 6, 2003 22:35:55 GMT
sorry then, byrdsmaniac.... now the pic is REALLY weird. strange noone said anything at that time, though.
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Post by SunKing on Sept 30, 2003 12:03:54 GMT
Very low quality tape and bad format conversion. That's all.
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Post by Scatterdome on Oct 3, 2003 2:10:32 GMT
Very low quality tape and bad format conversion. That's all. I agree with Sun King- that's probably all it is. If you squint at it to blur your eyes, it looks like Paul again. However, if it IS an accidental partial "shapeshifting slip" on Paul's part, don't hold it against him-- you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family. As elaborated by "Provincial," not all shape-shifters are aware that they have the ability, and even if they are, it doesn't mean they are automatically going to join the Illuminati's side. If they have the genes, they are just considered more desirable by the Illuminati as potential pawns to the agenda, knowing or unknowing. I think that when the Beatles first got famous, they WERE unknowingly serving ther Illuminati's agenda (The Illuminati's favorite function of the radio: "Marry and reproduce everyone! Keep them babies comin'!") But when they got blatantly psychedelic with Revolver and started singing about other things besides male-female relationships, that's when they became the Illuminati's enemies. Ultimately, I think the Beatles' mid-career public transformation helped transform the world in a positive direction opposite to the Illuminati's agenda. We should be thankful the Beatles kept the ship floating with Faul! Otherwise, the effect the later-period Beatles had on the world would have probably been significantly lesser.
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Post by LordChinfist on Oct 4, 2003 22:04:38 GMT
I think that when the Beatles first got famous, they WERE unknowingly serving ther Illuminati's agenda (The Illuminati's favorite function of the radio: "Marry and reproduce everyone! Keep them babies comin'!") But when they got blatantly psychedelic with Revolver and started singing about other things besides male-female relationships, that's when they became the Illuminati's enemies. Ultimately, I think the Beatles' mid-career public transformation helped transform the world in a positive direction opposite to the Illuminati's agenda. We should be thankful the Beatles kept the ship floating with Faul! Otherwise, the effect the later-period Beatles had on the world would have probably been significantly lesser. Scatterdome, do you think the illuminati could have caused Paul's death in 1966 (let's leave aside your alternate theory for the sake of this argument) because of the Beatles direction that conflicted with the illuminati's agenda, and that it was an entity or organisation that opposed the illuminati that decided to make the Beatles continue? If the Beatles had ended when Paul died this would have as you said probably made the influence of the Beatles lesser. Perhaps an organization opposing the illuminati knew that the Beatles needed to continue. The organization made the remaining Beatles aware of the situation and handled the matter by supplying the replacement and dealing with any other odds and ends. So despite what may look like lying by the Beatles in promoting the fraud, perhaps they realized this was for the greater good to combat the illuminati.
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Post by SunKing on Oct 4, 2003 23:39:57 GMT
Scatterdome, do you think the illuminati could have caused Paul's death in 1966 (let's leave aside your alternate theory for the sake of this argument) because of the Beatles direction that conflicted with the illuminati's agenda, and that it was an entity or organisation that opposed the illuminati that decided to make the Beatles continue? If the Beatles had ended when Paul died this would have as you said probably made the influence of the Beatles lesser. Perhaps an organization opposing the illuminati knew that the Beatles needed to continue. The organization made the remaining Beatles aware of the situation and handled the matter by supplying the replacement and dealing with any other odds and ends. So despite what may look like lying by the Beatles in promoting the fraud, perhaps they realized this was for the greater good to combat the illuminati. LordChinfist: I have to say you: NO ANSWER NEEDED! It's just PERFECT! Congratulaions once again!
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Post by LordChinfist on Oct 5, 2003 13:26:08 GMT
LordChinfist: I have to say you: NO ANSWER NEEDED! It's just PERFECT! Congratulaions once again! Sunking, thanks for the recent compliments. I'm glad you like my posts.
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Post by Scatterdome on Oct 5, 2003 15:52:42 GMT
Scatterdome, do you think the illuminati could have caused Paul's death in 1966 (let's leave aside your alternate theory for the sake of this argument) because of the Beatles direction that conflicted with the illuminati's agenda, and that it was an entity or organisation that opposed the illuminati that decided to make the Beatles continue? If the Beatles had ended when Paul died this would have as you said probably made the influence of the Beatles lesser. Perhaps an organization opposing the illuminati knew that the Beatles needed to continue. The organization made the remaining Beatles aware of the situation and handled the matter by supplying the replacement and dealing with any other odds and ends. So despite what may look like lying by the Beatles in promoting the fraud, perhaps they realized this was for the greater good to combat the illuminati. I suppose no answer is really needed, but I'll answer the question anyway for confirmation's (and elaboration's) sake-- yes, I believe that whatever happened in autumn '66 was a direct result of the conflict I described above- whether it was Paul being killed by the KKK or just the Beatles hiring a stand-in so that Paul could write songs in peaceful anonymity while allowing the Beatles to continue. So, the statement in the following paragraph actually supports both 60IF and my theory: The KKK is a branch of the Illuminati; whoever holds the "Grand Dragon" (Top Lizard) position in the KKK is a card-carrying member of the Illuminati. For the Illuminati, the KKK would have been the ideal organization to carry out such a murder (or at least the ideal organization on which to blame Paul's "murder" with 60IF), since the KKK, at that time, had many publicly-known motives for hating the Beatles; Brian Epstein being a Jew, and John's comment (which was reported out of context ON PURPOSE in just about every Illuminati media outlet carrying the story) about the Beatles being "bigger than Jesus" having already "offended" the KKK, as seen in the Anthology videos. (Hmm... maybe James Paul was the only "shapeshifter" in the group, and thus the Beatle most likely to be punished in some way by the Illuminati for betraying the "family" with his complicity in allowing the Beatles to become psychedelic shamans! Maybe James Paul knew this, which is why he was either killed or was the one who most wanted to escape the public eye after the Illuminati's sabotage of the Beatles' 1966 tour.) Either way, the Beatles' decision to load their albums with "PID" clues reflects their desire to hinder the Illuminati and help the world, after being hindered by them throughout much of '66. Reason being: they (or the "higher" organization on their side) knew that if the world discovered at some point that the Beatles had fooled the world AND displayed the symbolic "clue" evidence in the most blatant of places, many people would now be open to the idea that the Illuminati have been doing the same thing for a long time! (Ever tried to show a hard-core "skeptic" (debunker) a blatant Illuminati symbol display? Notice how similar their reactions are to "PID" clues?) So, if 60IF is true, the Beatles' "PID" clues would have been a "golden-hearted" revenge for Paul's death-- something that would also help save the world! It would explain why the friends and family would happily go along, the only catch being that they would all have to be successfully "unplugged" from their brainwashing by becoming educated on the existence of the Illuminati. (Under my alternate theory, the "revenge factor" would be that the Beatles were PO'd that the Illuminati had basically spooked them into making their '66 tour their last; the reason given to dozens of friends & family --the idea that Paul just wanted to get away -- would have been enough to keep them willingly silent, without having to attempt the difficult task of educating ALL friends & family of the Beatles about the Illuminati.) For reference, here's the direct link to my alternate theory: 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=paul&action=display&thread=1063219993
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Post by SgtPepper on Oct 20, 2003 22:50:30 GMT
I agree with SK that the reason is probably nothing more than a low-quality filming process. Remember, this is Australia during 1964 (the Stuart Highway connecting Darwin to Adelaide was not completely finished until the late 1980's). Yet the pictures as seen make a sort of caricature of John & Paul - embellish a few more features and you'd have one. An interesting experiment would be to have a person who does this draw caricatures of the pre and post late 1966 "Pauls". Would be difficult finding a person who can do this objectively or who truly has no idea who they are. Many have been drawn - there is of course Fool on the Hill and some on the Wings/Macca albums, and frankly they do seem at least a little different as the people do. Regarding the Illuminatti, aliens, etc. - I don't agree with much of this. Nor does the theory presented here agree well with Bill's role as outlined in 60IF. I.e., it was not to fight against the Illuminatti (or ae least not mentioned) - it was an agreement among the remaining Beatles and their intelligence associates. All of them clearly understood what this agreement involved, and what the consequences were of breaching it. Thus I don't think I was ever a partner to fight against any Illuminatti (though I certainly can be wrong), though nor can I say much of anything or I'd be killed. These people don't play games, and "I'm" no fool. You can see the stars & stripes in the U.S., the Canadian Maple Leaf, and the English Union Jack. So regardless of any feeble attempts of any Illuminatti to do things, they evidently can't do that. Regarding the opinion that Bill With the Beatles had a positive influence on society, I generally disagree. By the 70's, I was certainly tired of goddamned drug-addicts who needed a haircut & a "life". Nor did many of these people really believe in much of anything. Don't trust anyone over 30 - no to capitalism, etc. Now that they're over 30, we're winning wars instead of losing them, they're the very people they used to complain about. Glad that's over with.
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Post by SgtPepper on Oct 20, 2003 23:04:26 GMT
Well, the personal insult generally directed at ex-hippies was uncalled for (many of these people were/are very nice), but my point in the previous post is the pre-1967 Beatles weren't like this - though maybe they were heading in the general direction anyway. They indeed were influenced by the events around them as well as influencing them.
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