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Post by Jilli on Nov 30, 2004 9:04:33 GMT
here is a really good web page of Johnny Hallyday lyrics you can make one page in French and one in english and read down the whole list of songs very interesting reading. slypeople.free.fr/song/j/johnnyhallyday |
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Post by PaulBearer on Nov 30, 2004 9:10:51 GMT
How do you make the page in English?  |
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Post by Jilli on Nov 30, 2004 9:43:51 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Nov 30, 2004 11:23:09 GMT
translation is mine from this web site translation.langenberg.com/I found this song at this web page no date for it notice how much easier this was to translate...i think there was a lot of slang in the other one www.tabs-lyrics.com/Hallyday-Johnny--Notre-Histoire-lyric.htmlNotre Histoire (our history) A maquiller en bleu (has to make up in blue) Ce qui dans le fond est noir (what in the content is black) Tu sais mes yeux sont ton miroir (you know my eyes are your mirror) Regarde un peu (look at a little) Veux-tu encore y croire (want you to still believe in it) Notre histoire (our history) Notre histoire (our history) S'arr�te l� (wont translate on web site) La pluie tombe sur l'quai de la gare (the rain falls on the station platform) Tu me demandes du feu (you me requests of fire) Minuit sonne quelque part (midnight sounds some share) Tes doigts tremblent un peu (your fingers tremble a little) Comme dans un mauvais polar (As in a bad polar) D'un regard tu me dis adieu (of a glance you tell me good-bye) Fin de l'histoire (end of the history) Fin de l'histoire (end of the history) T�t ou tard ((tyt) or late) Tu me reviendras (you will return to me) Oh ! Tu verras (oh you will see) Oh ! Tu verras (oh you will see) Fin de l'histoire (end of the history) Je n'y crois pas (I do not believe in it) Un jour un soir (One day one evening) Tu m'aimeras (you will like me) Comme au d�part (you me (dypart)) De notre histoire (of our history) De notre histoire (of our history) I recognized a couple of possibilities. s'arrete y arrêt = stop *[noun-masculine] arrêtent = stop *[verb] arrêter = stop *[verb] arrêtez = stop *[verb] arrêtons = stop *[verb] It stops itself, "Our story, our story, is ended". and: amant = lover *[noun-masculine] so, maybe not "a maquiller blue", but: "amant qu'il est bleu", "lover that he is blue", he's an unhappy lover fond is fond = bottom *[noun-masculine] or fond = melts *[verb] That which, at the bottom, is black. Veux-tu encore y croire Do you want to continue believing in it? Minuit sonne quelque part Midnight bell (call) some (people) leave (they're at the train depot) Comme dans un mauvais polar maybe:pâleur = pallor *[noun-feminine] comme dans un mauvais paleur Like in an angry pallor or comme dans un mauvais de l'heure as in the madness/anger of the hour or: colère = anger *[noun-feminine]like choleric in English, ANGRY! comme dans une mauvais colere Your fingers tremble a bit, as in a angry fit. Your hands are shaking like somebody having a real conniption fit.. English is rich sometimes, don't you think? T�t ou tard ((tyt) or late) toute d'est tard (final "t" and starting "d" merge in sound) all is late? Comme au d�part (you me (dypart)) maybe: comme aux des partes comme au de parte like at the departing You will love me at the departure of our story. You will love when its all over between us. D'un regard tu me dis adieu maybe: D'un regard tu me dise adieu: could be With one look you tell me goodbye. (dise from dire, to say) Good night. Bella noche. |
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Post by Jilli on Nov 30, 2004 20:42:33 GMT
Thanks for the help Perplexed that was really good...I know my translation reallly didnt make sence in places.
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Post by beatled on Dec 6, 2004 4:01:12 GMT
Sylvie's and Fylvie's faces are PERFECTLY equalized as vertical dimension. Do you know "I Camaleonti"? Me...yes and "in person" I am cm 1.80 tall and the man on Fylvie's left is cm 175 tall So Ringo Starr could be cm 185 and Mal Evans cm 225 Ringo is 6' 3" tall? Oh....hmmm... |
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Post by abbey on Dec 6, 2004 16:15:14 GMT
My metric measurement translation suck, but I know Ringo was 5'7" or 5'8"......if he had been 6'3", all the other Beatles would have been giants.
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Post by beatled on Dec 22, 2004 13:43:18 GMT
A friend of mine found this in one of her old magazines, I'll ask when it came out, but thought it might be a useful addition to this thread. Edit: "Flip" magazine, May of 1966 ![]() http://*banned link*/sylvie.jpg[/img] |
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Post by abbey on Dec 22, 2004 15:30:54 GMT
That looks like the REAL Sylvie, alright.
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Post by PaulBearer on Jan 9, 2005 3:03:12 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 5, 2005 5:11:53 GMT
I am really starting to see the differences. Sylvie, with her short, cute, but
"chunkier" (she was beautiful) face, seems fated to, had she lived, have a "Joan Blondell" kind of face in her later years, say late 50's, 60's. She's all cheeks, with a short face. Adorable. However, the Sylvie replacement, while appearing to be alluring and pretty, seems to be a bit masculine. I won't go as far as to say I think she was a sex change. But, I won't go so far as to say that it isn't a possibility..........Fylvie's nose is longer, proportionately to the rest of the face than Sylvie. Also, the region above the lips under the nose is greater in Fylvie. The whole head is longer by far.
I have never known much about Ms. Vartan. So, I have no history of knowing her music or her image. All I believe is, those are two different people in the photos above.
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 5, 2005 5:20:25 GMT
I don't think that's Fylvie the man in my post. He came later. Two Fylvies? Maybe two Faul's? And, a temporary Feorge? Just a suspicion I have.......like, only used for 6 months or so, late 66 thru early 67,till George got better, emotionally? I could be wrong about that........ |
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 5, 2005 5:58:30 GMT
Everybody had a bad year,
Everybody had a face lift......
Same Ringo, slight modifications to the "grill" and the "headlights".
Ford and General Motors do it every year. Why can't we?..........
A round of surgeries.......for EVERYBODY!
Even John's nose and cheeks became chiseled down a bit......
For the cheekbones? They could go in through the roof of the mouth. Leaves no scars on the outside............remake the cheek contours without ever breaking the skin.........reset the maxillae......lock it in with a putty compound..........take out the putty after 6 weeks......voîla!
Oh, you might be swollen for a while.......but no cuts to the face.........
And, rhinoplasty? Go in thru the nostril and take or add "cartiledge" to the underneath.......
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Post by PaulBearer on Mar 5, 2005 6:07:57 GMT
Found a page about her . I posted this brief excerpt
which details plastic surgery after a car crash in 1969 and that she released a song called Nicholas .
On April 11th Sylvie Vartan had a serious car accident in which her passenger, a friend, died. She came out of this trauma in a seriously depressed state but, with the aid of her family, she managed to piece herself together again before her first live engagement at L’Olympia. A series of hits followed: "Comme un garçon", "l’Oiseau", "Et c’est beaucoup mieux comme ça" and "Jolie poupée". She also recorded "la Maritza", an evocative, nostalgic song about her home country, Bulgaria. She had began to build a more personal repertoire and leave yéyé behind her.
In the spring of 69 she went on an African tour with Carlos, followed by an 80-date French tour. In February 70, she was in another car crash, this time with Johnny Hallyday. He came out of it unharmed but Sylvie was seriously injured. Extensive plastic surgery was necessary to re-build her face. She convalesced in New York, where she met Jojo Smith, Barbara Streisand’s dance master, who masterminded her future American-style shows.
Her first live performance after the accident was at L’Olympia at the end of the year, after which she left on a tour of Japan in May 71. The Japanese public warmly welcomed an artist who had taken the trouble to record three songs in their language. She then spent the summer travelling in America with her husband. Film director François Reischenbach shot footage of the trip and made it into a film, "Mon amie Sylvie". She returned to the cinema in "Malpertuis" by Harry Kummel, featuring Orson Welles.
She chose L’Olympia, her favourite Parisian venue, for her return to the boards in a full-blown, choreographed American-style stage show, complete with sequins and backing singers, which she had rehearsed in Los Angeles during summer 72 and which played to enthusiastic full houses for three weeks in September. She sang more rock-based material than usual but also a cover version of Jacques Brel’s "Ne me quitte pas" and "Mon père", a tribute to her father, who had died two years earlier.
No problem
Sylvie recorded her first duet with Johnny in 73. "J’ai un problème" rapidly became a Golden Disc and versions were recorded in several languages. On the summer tour, she also sang with him, thereby putting an end to growing rumours about their imminent separation. She then returned to the Land of The Rising Sun again, where she recorded a double live album for the Japanese market.
At the end of the year, she took part in "Je chante pour Swanee", a TV show with a genuine musical comedy scenario. It was broadcast in 33 countries and her record company, RCA, decided to release an album. From March to May 75, she appeared on Italian TV in an 8-show series, "Punto e basta". Then followed a summer tour with Jean-Jacques Debout and a concert with Johnny in Narbonne in front of a crowd of 40.000.
When it came to her stage shows, Sylvie saw things big. In October 75, against the advice of her somewhat alarmed entourage, she planned a season at the Palais de Congrès in Paris, a much larger venue than l’Olympia, and hired an American choreographer, Walter Painter, to direct an army of dancers. The most vampish of the French singers, bedecked in sequins and paste, triumphed in the show and the ensuing tour. Press and public were unanimous in their praise for its beautiful, hardworking, perfectionist – in short, professional – star
Following this marathon effort, she left to the United States for a rest with her son. She returned to France in 77, again to the Palais de Congrès for a new show, just as spectacular as the previous one, "Qu’est-ce qui fait pleurer les blondes?"
At the height of the disco wave, Sylvie’s record label, RCA, proposed that she record an album in English. She recorded "I don’t want the night to end" but it got a lukewarm reception. She compensated at the end of the year with the release of a romantic number, "Nicolas" which became a huge hit." In her private life, things were going less well: Johnny and Sylvie decided, decided mutually to divorce, thereby ending the most celebrated love story of the sixties and seventies in France. |
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 5, 2005 21:40:31 GMT
A round of surgeries.......for EVERYBODY!
You really think so, Perp? Just a light cut or stitch here or there to keep the public off-balance?
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Post by unrepentant on Mar 6, 2005 2:26:46 GMT
ringo and elton had the best cosmetic work done of ALL the music people, at least in my opinion.
too bad elton gained weight afterwards, he'd have been the all time "makeover" champion. does ringo get that honor??
christ knows he made himself over on the INSIDE......
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Post by abbey on Mar 7, 2005 0:34:52 GMT
I still say that Sylvie was just a quickie flirtation. There was absolutely nothing serious between the two of them. Paul loved his women, but not for any length of time.....he flitted from woman to woman. Sylvie was no different. He took what he wanted and had a good time, but he wasn't in love with her, nor did he write a bunch of love songs for her. BTW, in the song "The Word"; orange sunshine is a form of acid that Paul liked. Paul wrote the word & he sang it ! The Word Say the word and you’ll be free, Say the word and be like me, Say the word I’m thinking of, Have you heard the word is love. It’s so fine, it’s sunshine,
It’s the word love.In the beginning I misunderstood, But now I’ve got it the word is good. Say the word and you’ll be free, Say the word and be like me, Say the word I’m thinking of, Have you heard the word is love. It’s so fine, it’s sunshine, It’s the word love. Everywhere I go I hear it said, In the good and the bad books that I have read. Say the word and you’ll be free, Say the word and be like me, Say the word I’m thinking of, Have you heard the word is love. It’s so fine, it’s sunshine, It’s the word love. Now that I know what I feel must be right, I mean to show ev’rybody the light, Give the word a chance to say, That the word is just the way, It’s the word I’m thinking of, And the only word is love, It’s so fine it’s sunshine, It’s the word love. Say the word love, Say the word love, Say the word love, Say the word love. The Word = Sunshine. Orange Sunshine, that is ;D  |
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Post by Apollo C. Vermouth on Mar 13, 2005 1:36:52 GMT
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 13, 2005 5:57:49 GMT
What a revelation! What a personage was Carroll!
No wonder John found so much on him and his writings to enjoy and perhaps imitate.
Deep stuff, yet in a way, plain and simple, was that essay/dedication--whatever its purpose was. Now I should try to struggle through the book. Getting started is always hard for me, and stopping equally difficult.
Thank you, Mr. Vermouth, for this profound indicator about Carroll.
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Post by Palin on Mar 13, 2005 9:36:32 GMT
Sister - It's actually John that sings the Word - it was his song, and I've rad him talking about the biblical title and the simple meaning of the song. All the Beatles join in for the chorus.
PS The Beatles hadn't taken acid yet at the time Rubber Soul was recorded. Revolver was the first album to be influenced by halucinogenics. (1965).
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Post by PaulBearer on Mar 13, 2005 11:42:03 GMT
Wasn't Revolver August '66?
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Post by BeatlePaul on Mar 13, 2005 20:15:43 GMT
Ok, now I see who is our "coach". |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Mar 13, 2005 20:58:06 GMT
Sister - It's actually John that sings the Word - it was his song, and I've rad him talking about the biblical title and the simple meaning of the song. All the Beatles join in for the chorus. PS The Beatles hadn't taken acid yet at the time Rubber Soul was recorded. Revolver was the first album to be influenced by halucinogenics. (1965). Well, I consider "Tomorrow Never Knows" - released on August 1966- a fantastic musical experiment. Pure genius. Nothing to do with acid or any other drug. Officially Faul admitted to have taken acid FOR THE FIRST TIME on 1967. Strange chronology yours Palin. |
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Post by Power 2 The People on Mar 13, 2005 22:58:11 GMT
Lennon said that "She Said She Said" was about an acid trip in LA. Tomorrow never knows was inspired by his interest in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, influenced by LSD. Yellow Submarine was loosely based on their first acid trip after their coffee was spiked by the dentist friend. I think Revolver was pretty much an LSD-inspired album.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Mar 13, 2005 23:10:51 GMT
Lennon said that "She Said She Said" was about an acid trip in LA. Tomorrow never knows was inspired by his interest in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, influenced by LSD. Yellow Submarine was loosely based on their first acid trip after their coffee was spiked by the dentist friend. I think Revolver was pretty much an LSD-inspired album. I've read the same about but magazines of those times didn't report such things. Reverse engineered folkore. |
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