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Post by BeatlePaul on Dec 27, 2005 23:22:50 GMT
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Edman
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Post by Edman on Dec 28, 2005 1:44:37 GMT
Do you have anymore information on the Beatles photo on the left? I'm friends with the Airline Stewardess in the photo and she has autographed Beatles photos from that day
Any more photos in that series?
Ed
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Post by BeatlePaul on Dec 28, 2005 13:11:35 GMT
Do you have anymore information on the Beatles photo on the left? I'm friends with the Airline Stewardess in the photo and she has autographed Beatles photos from that day Any more photos in that series? Ed I'd like to have an autographed photo from her.... ;D "There's a fog upon L.A. And my friends have lost their way We'll be over soon they said Now they've lost themselves instead
Well it only goes to show And I told them where to go Ask a policeman on the street There's so many there to meet
Now it's past my bed I know And I'd really like to go Soon will be the break of day Sitting here in Blue Jay Way"I say, the truth is hidden in plain sight. Every piece of the puzzle, in one box. To understand that is to understand the length, width, and depth of what you wish to uncover. Eschew obsfucation! Apollo
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 4, 2006 17:14:18 GMT
www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Dino_Danelli.htmlDino Danelli "performed with: The Young Rascals, Gene Cornish, Jeff Gottschalk, Wally Brison The Rascals, Explore, Tom Dowd, Frankie Vinci Arif Mardin, Lex Marchesi, Howard Buzzy Feiten, Michael Bruce Ralph MacDonald, April Wine, The Bar-Kays, Bulldog Felix Cavaliere, Roxanne, Fontana, Fotomaker, Laura Nyro Pepper, David Rea, Dan Reed, Network B.J. Thomas, King Curtis, John Turi Eric "ET" Thorngren, Little Steven & the Disciples of Soul .... and many more[/b]" "Many More" indeed! ;D Even in the pictures from 1999 he could pass for Paul or Faul. Still I'd like to find better evidence.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 4, 2006 18:10:42 GMT
"Ringo the 4th" www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000002IU1/103-1648646-9204608May be! (Ringo # 4) More images from the album: www.jpgr.co.uk/p2310556.htmlHere's Wikipedia's commentary on that album: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringo_the_4th"Ringo the 4th is an album by Ringo Starr and was released in 1977. Commonly regarded as his least popular album (and perhaps the least favored solo Beatles release), Ringo the 4th caught Starr at the nadir of his recording career. After the commercial failure of Ringo's Rotogravure, Starr decided to shift his formula of using his well-known musician friends (notably his fellow ex-Beatles) to write songs and appear on his albums. Instead, he intensified his partnership with Vini Poncia, with whom he wrote several of the songs featured here, while using the input of different musicians. David Foster plays keyboards on a couple of songs, while Melissa Manchester and Bette Midler occasionally appear on backing vocals. By reducing the input of his usual celebrity friends, the limelight is aimed more squarely on Starr - and the results are far from satisfying. Producer Arif Mardin places Starr in a slick dance-oriented context, but it is not enough to save what are fairly mediocre songs sung by Starr, who sounds clearly inebriated throughout much of the album. Even its campy front cover is a sign that Starr was no longer putting much effort into his musical career. Ringo the 4th - in fact, his sixth studio album, but so named because he considered 1973's Ringo to be his first album proper - was a dismal failure upon its September release, both commercially and critically. Never touching the UK charts, Ringo the 4th limped to a paltry #162 in the US before expiring. Atlantic Records promptly dropped Starr from their roster shortly thereafter. Ringo the 4th was reissued on CD in the US by Atlantic Records in 1992, its only source of availability. Track listing: " Drowning In The Sea Of Love" (Kenny Gamble/Leon Huff) - 5:09 " Tango All Night" (Tom Seufert/Steve Hague) - 2:58 " Wings" (Richard Starkey/Vini Poncia) - 3:26 " Gave It All Up" (Richard Starkey/Vini Poncia) - 4:41 " Out On The Streets" (Richard Starkey/Vini Poncia) - 4:29 " Can She Do It Like She Dances" (Steve Duboff/Gerry Robinson) - 3:12 " Sneaking Sally Through The Alley[/color]" (Allen Toussaint) - 4:17 " It's No Secret" (Richard Starkey/Vini Poncia) - 3:42 " Gypsies In Flight[/color]" (Richard Starkey/Vini Poncia) - 3:02 " Simple Love Song" (Richard Starkey/Vini Poncia) - 2:57 " (end) I find this collection of titles just fascinating, don't you?!
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 4, 2006 19:36:36 GMT
I was looking at some of the songs listed above, when I came across these lyrics from "Ringo" and (Rolling Stone) Ron Wood: www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Dead-Giveaway-lyrics-Ringo-Starr/A14679FEDA04EB4F48256CB70009DBA3" DEAD GIVEAWAY By Richard Starkey and Ron Wood PEOPLE LIKE YOU SEE IT COMIN' A MILE OFF, FIND IT HARD STAYIN' IN LINE. IT'S NOT THAT NO ONE REALLY HEARS YOU, JUST THAT NOBODY REALLY CARES. LIKE SOMEONE WHO'S JUST SEEN THE LIGHT, LIKE SOMEONE LOOKING FOR A FIGHT. SAME THING EV'RY DAY, BEING FOOLISH, BEING ASKED TO LOSE YOUR SEAT. DON'T LOOK TO ME ASKIN' TO BE HELPED UP TO YOUR FEET. DON'T YOU KNOW YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY? YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY. DON'T LOOK TO ME 'CAUSE I KNOW YOUR GAME, NONSENSE MERCHANT, HALL OF FAME. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, YOU'RE A BLIND DRUNK, AND IF YOU AIN'T THAT, YOU'RE FAR TOO STONED. 'CAUSE YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, SMELL A RAT IN EV'RYTHING YOU DO. WELL, YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, ASKED TO LEAVE EV'RYWHERE YOU GO. PEOPLE SAY YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY. SOMEBODY KNOCKIN' AT THE DOOR!* YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, I'VE SEEN YOU HAPPY ALL THE TIME. DON'T LIVE LONELY LIFE, DEAD GIVEAWAY. WELL, IT'S A DEAD GIVEAWAY, YOU'RE A DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY, NOBODY REALLY CARES, DEAD GIVEAWAY. DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY, DEAD GIVEAWAY." (end) *"Someone's Knockin At the Door" - a Faul song Ringo's saying that Faul is so bad, and is so obviously not Paul, that he's a dead giveaway that he's not Paul. Also, of course, giving away that 'Paul is 'dead', and 'dead' himself.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 4, 2006 20:03:20 GMT
Here's another song performed, but not written, by "Ringo". Note that the title is a take off on the Beatles' "Golden Slumbers" www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Golden-Blunders-lyrics-Ringo-Starr/8F3F64EB583982ED48256CB7000BF58E"GOLDEN BLUNDERS By Jonathan Auer and Kenneth Stringfellow GOLDEN BLUNDERS COME IN PAIRS, THEY'RE VERY UNAWARE WHAT THEY KNOW IS WHAT THEY'VE SEEN. EDUCATION WASN'T FUN, BUT NOW THAT SCHOOL IS DONE, HIGHER LEARNING'S JUST BEGUN, HEY, HEY, HEY. YOU'RE GONNA WATCH WHAT YOU SAY FOR A LONG TIME, YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER THE GUILT FOREVER. YOU'RE GONNA GET IN THE WAY AT THE WRONG TIME, YOU'RE GONNA MESS UP THINGS YOU THOUGH YOU WOULD NEVER. DISAPPOINTMENT BREEDS CONTEMPT, IT MAKES YOU FEEL INEPT, NEVER THOUGHT YOU'D FEEL ALONE AT HOME. HIS AND HERS FOREVER MORE, THROW YOUR FREEDOM OUT THE DOOR BEFORE YOU FIND OUT WHAT IT'S FOR, HEY, HEY, HEY. YOU'RE GONNA WATCH WHAT YOU SAY FOR A LONG TIME, YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER THE GUILT FOREVER. YOU'RE GONNA GET IN THE WAY AT THE WRONG TIME, YOU'RE GONNA MESS UP THINGS YOU THOUGH YOU WOULD NEVER. FOUR WEEKS SEEMED LIKE A LONG TIME THEN, BUT NINE MONTHS IS LONGER NOW. AND EVEN IF YOU NEVER SPEAK AGAIN, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THE WEDDING VOW. YOU'RE GONNA WATCH WHAT YOU SAY FOR A LONG TIME, (boy) YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER THE GUILT FOREVER. YOU'RE GONNA GET IN THE WAY AT THE WRONG TIME, (girl) YOU'RE GONNA MESS UP THINGS YOU THOUGH YOU WOULD NEVER. HONEYMOONS WILL NEVER START, BONDS WILL BLOW APART JUST AS FAST AS THEY WERE MADE. MEN AND WOMEN, PLEASE, BEWARE, DON'T PRETEND YOU CARE. NOTHING LASTS WHEN NOTHING'S THERE, AH-HAH-HAH. YOU'RE GONNA WATCH WHAT YOU SAY FOR A LONG TIME, (boy) YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER THE GUILT FOREVER. YOU'RE GONNA GET IN THE WAY AT THE WRONG TIME, (girl) YOU'RE GONNA MESS UP THINGS YOU THOUGH YOU WOULD NEVER. YOU'RE GONNA WATCH WHAT YOU SAY FOR A LONG TIME, (boy) YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER THE GUILT FOREVER. YOU'RE GONNA GET IN THE WAY AT THE WRONG TIME, (girl) YOU'RE GONNA MESS UP THINGS YOU THOUGH YOU WOULD NEVER. YOU'RE GONNA WATCH WHAT YOU SAY FOR A LONG TIME, (boy) YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER THE GUILT FOREVER. YOU'RE GONNA GET IN THE WAY AT THE WRONG TIME, (girl) YOU'RE GONNA MESS UP THINGS YOU THOUGH YOU WOULD NEVER. YOU'RE GONNA WATCH WHAT YOU SAY FOR A LONG TIME, (boy) YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER THE GUILT FOREVER." (end)
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Post by LUCY on Jun 4, 2006 21:53:35 GMT
I honestly don't see where you are going here. Ringo never changed, except that wierd photoshoot ( with a ball?) in the garden.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 5, 2006 11:44:44 GMT
From Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Brigati"Eddie Brigati (born Edward Brigati Jr, on 22 October 1946, in Garfield, New Jersey) is an American singer. Most memorably, Eddie shared vocals, and played tambourine, in the rock music group The Young Rascals from 1965 to 1972. Prior to his stint with The Young Rascals (who later shortened their name to The Rascals), Eddie had been a member of Joey Dee and The Starliters (having actually replaced his brother, original Starliter David Brigati, in that group). In 1976, Eddie and David recorded an album, Lost In the Wilderness, under the name "Brigati." The (Young) Rascals were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1997." (end) I'd think it would have been hard for him to be with The Young Rascals and The Beatles at the same time. Here's another Beatles/Rascals connection: www.hartfordadvocate.com/gbase/Music/content.html?oid=oid:13399"About the Rascals' heyday, Cavaliere said, "I just had a plan in those days that worked. I remember when I had worked with the Beatles prior to anyone seeing them over here in the States. I'd worked with them in Germany and Sweden, when I was a sideman for Joey Dee [and the Starlighters]. I was a classically trained musician so I could see what they were doing. I was not aware of their songwriting capability yet, but I knew what they were doing with their own music was unique, and what they were doing with our music, meaning American music, was just so-so. I decided what I would do when I got back over here was to find the best musicians that I could, which meant I stole the frontman from a bunch of other groups." (Drummer Dino Danelli was a teen prodigy, having played in various R&B and jazz bands, including Lionel Hampton's and Little Willie John's; singer Eddie Brigati and Gene Cornish had also been in Joey Dee's Starlighters.) The high-maintenance personalities of the four Rascals made for exciting music but planted the seeds of their downfall. "It meant we had four Alpha males in the same group," said Cavaliere, laughing. "That was the problem, everybody was a leader, everybody was strong. It was a very powerful band because of that. " (end) Point of interest: Eddie Brigati and Gene Cornish were in a band called "Bulldog". www.classicbands.com/DinoDanelliInterview.html"HEY BULLDOG (Lennon/McCartney) Sheepdog Standing in the rain, Bullfrog Doing it again Some kind of happiness is measured out in miles What makes you think you're something special when you smile? Child-like No one understands, Jack knife In your sweaty hands, Some kind of innocence is measured out in years You don't know what it's like to listen to your fears. You can talk to me You can talk to me You can talk to me If you're lonely you can talk to me Big man Walking in the park Wigwam Frightened of the dark Some kind of solitude is measured out in you You think you know me but you haven't got a clue You can talk to me You can talk to me You can talk to me If you're lonely you can talk to me Hey Hey Bulldog Hey Bulldog Hey Bulldog Hey Bulldog Hey Bulldog" (end) Wikipedia says the song was intended to be called "Hey Bullfrog" until 'McCartney' started barking unexpectedly in the midst of recording session, and then 'the next lines (initially intended as "Hey Bullfrog") were changed mid-song to "Hey Bulldog". ' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_BulldogSounds like a plot!
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 5, 2006 14:38:18 GMT
excellent research and post, byrds
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 5, 2006 18:36:39 GMT
Thank you Perplexed. I appreciate the compliment. Look at this amazing little bit of trivia: www.answers.com/topic/gene-cornish"Gene Cornish was born in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, in May of 1945. Music was a part of his life from almost the start, since his mother was a professional singer during his childhood. While he was still very small he moved with her to the United States and soon settled in New York. There he mastered the guitar, and learned to hold his own with the harmonica, bass, drums, and as a singer. By the early '60s, young Cornish was making the rounds of local clubs and bars, performing with a number of rock acts and even working solo for a while. One of the groups was called Joey Dee & the Starlighters, where Cornish met vocalist Eddie Brigati and keyboardist Felix Cavaliere. By 1964, Cornish was fronting a group called the Unbeatables, whose sound was remarkably similar to what the Rascals would later create, albeit more primitive and far more derivative of several earlier pop music forms. They were an R&B-based club band, equally at home on slow ballads ("Happy Birthday, Baby," "Talk To Me") or fast dance numbers. The group was still tied to the influence of early-'60s pop/rock, retaining elements of harmony vocal music in their work, and represented essentially a transitional phase between early-'60s doo wop and the sound that Cornish was to perfect with Cavaliere and Brigati in the Rascals. The Unbeatables, whose name was likely a play on the Beatles' name, made a small splash in 1964 with the single "I Wanna Be a Beatle," and amid their harmony vocals and old-style rock & roll numbers, they showed the influence of the British Invasion on songs like "Oh! Misery." They never attracted more than middling sales or middle-level gigs, however, and were history by 1965. That year, the three friends teamed up with drummer Dino Danelli to form a little group who were at first called the Young Rascals. A year later, Cornish saw the release of his debut album with the band. A few big hits helped the band's fame grow quickly. Cornish enjoyed the ride with his friends until 1971, when he stepped out of the lineup to join a new act, Bulldog. When things didn't work out, he and Danelli took up spots in Fotomaker**. The group recorded a few albums in the late '70s before Cornish moved on to G.C. Dangerous. Before the '90s rolled in, Cornish and some of the other members from the original Rascals reunited for a brief time to do small tours and even to make a few television appearances. They performed together again in 1997 as part of the ceremony when the group was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. That same year, Cornish released an album, Live at Palisades Amusement Park, that presented his pre-Rascals recordings, including "I Wanna Be a Beatle," "Rockin' Robin," "Peanuts," "What'd I Say," "You're Gonna Cry Someday," and even Cole Porter's "I Love Paris." ~ Charlotte Dillon & Bruce Eder, All Music Guide" ** Is "Ringo's" ROTOGRAVURE supposed to give a clue to FOTOMAKER ?A rotogravure was a "photo-maker" in the early newspaper days.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 6, 2006 1:08:17 GMT
Oops! I didn't realize that you had already pointed out the "I Wanna Be A Beatle" song in post #16, BeatlePaul.
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Post by unrepentant on Jun 6, 2006 6:47:34 GMT
nobody replaced paul in summer '66 because we have him on video at press conferences. i guess paul was into making faces as he was getting off the plane with the rest of the group, a habit his imitator faul took a little too far.
members of the rascals replacing members of the beatles is far, FAR from likely, so this should not become a whole new subchapter of the P.I.D. story.
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 6, 2006 10:37:22 GMT
members of the rascals replacing members of the beatles is far, FAR from likely, so this should not become a whole new subchapter of the P.I.D. story. even if it's true, evidently.... (I did say "if".) But there is an "American" Faul referred to in a number of places. He's refered to in Neil Young's "Broken Arrow" (c.1969) song done by Buffalo Springfield in this verse: " Eighteen years*[/b] of american dream, He saw that his brother had sworn on the wall. He hung up his eyelids and ran down the hall, His mother had told him a trip was a fall, And don’t mention babies at all." This verse is musically, and with sound effects, linked to the Beatle's performance at Shea stadium. "His brother (who) had sworn on the wall" was Paul, given what we know of Sylvie and a wall. And Paul was "his brother" in appearence. He "hung up his eyelids" (to look more like Paul/ pass for Paul) *Dino Danelli was 19 or 20 when "The Young Rascals" album came out. I think they were another "dog" band. (considered to be potential Beatle replacements by [who?] whoever was "behind" the Beatles.) Later he's chastised in the Crosby Stills Nash and Young song " American Dream"(1988) excerpt: "I used to see you on every T.V. Your smiling face looked back at me. Then they caught you with the girl next door, People's money piled on the floor, Accusations that you try to deny, Revelations and rumors begin to fly. Now you think about reaching out Maybe get some help from above. Now you think about reaching out Maybe get some help from above. Reporters crowd around your house. Going through your garbage like a pack of hounds, Speculating what they may find out, It don't matter now, you're all washed up.You wake up in the middle of the night. Your sheets are wet and your face is white, You tried to make a good thing last, How could something so good, go bad, so fast? American dream[/b], American dream American dream, American dream. Don't know when things went wrong, Might have been when you were young and strong." The "good thing" would be being able to "be" a Beatle, or, having been one, to continue to live the lifestyle of one! . I think these lyrics are [glow=green,2,300]VERY REVEALING![/glow] "American Dream" had been caught with stolen, or drug, money and "the girl next door" and the story was being investigated by reporters rummaging through his garbage. Now he seeks help "from above". Doesn't this sound a bit like "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" or "She Came In Through the Bathroom Window"? We have Paul, having heard of Sylvie's death, leaving the Beatles and secluding himself; possibly descending into madness, or even dead from a car or plane crash. Then we have "American Dream" playing the Paul role, but having a promiscuous lifestyle, (and doing lots of drugs?); getting in trouble with the law, and then becoming a "holy roller" ("Come Together" lyrics) in hopes of cleaning up his act and getting divine help. Was he the one who is "Here today; gone tomorrow"? I suspect that American Dream is also possibly Bowie's "Major Tom" who was "a junkie", and partly (the) "Young American". At this point Faul has to come in to play the Paul role. Or was it Neil Aspinall and the others first? It's something like that! ;D I think we still have a way to go to unravel this mess. "Paul" 's face looks as inflated as Faul's often does in this photo, and "Ringo" looks like he's wearing those "Groucho glasses" they sell at novelty stores with nose and eyebrows attached! Look at "Ringo" 's nose! I don't know whether either "Paul" or "Ringo" are authentic in this picture, but I certainly find it curious that The Young Rascals seem to have one Paul and 2 Ringo impersonators in their group!
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Post by unrepentant on Jun 6, 2006 22:24:21 GMT
it occurs to me how mal evans has that statuesque presence in all these early beatles photos....that is so easily picked out of a crowd.
are there any pix of him STANDING next to faul? i remember the one with him and paul in the park, when that crazed fan approached him.
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Post by LUCY on Jun 7, 2006 0:51:46 GMT
Thank you Perplexed. I appreciate the compliment. Look at this amazing little bit of trivia: www.answers.com/topic/gene-cornish"Gene Cornish was born in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, in May of 1945. Music was a part of his life from almost the start, since his mother was a professional singer during his childhood. While he was still very small he moved with her to the United States and soon settled in New York. There he mastered the guitar, and learned to hold his own with the harmonica, bass, drums, and as a singer. By the early '60s, young Cornish was making the rounds of local clubs and bars, performing with a number of rock acts and even working solo for a while. One of the groups was called Joey Dee & the Starlighters, where Cornish met vocalist Eddie Brigati and keyboardist Felix Cavaliere. By 1964, Cornish was fronting a group called the Unbeatables, whose sound was remarkably similar to what the Rascals would later create, albeit more primitive and far more derivative of several earlier pop music forms. They were an R&B-based club band, equally at home on slow ballads ("Happy Birthday, Baby," "Talk To Me") or fast dance numbers. The group was still tied to the influence of early-'60s pop/rock, retaining elements of harmony vocal music in their work, and represented essentially a transitional phase between early-'60s doo wop and the sound that Cornish was to perfect with Cavaliere and Brigati in the Rascals. The Unbeatables, whose name was likely a play on the Beatles' name, made a small splash in 1964 with the single "I Wanna Be a Beatle," and amid their harmony vocals and old-style rock & roll numbers, they showed the influence of the British Invasion on songs like "Oh! Misery." They never attracted more than middling sales or middle-level gigs, however, and were history by 1965. That year, the three friends teamed up with drummer Dino Danelli to form a little group who were at first called the Young Rascals. A year later, Cornish saw the release of his debut album with the band. A few big hits helped the band's fame grow quickly. Cornish enjoyed the ride with his friends until 1971, when he stepped out of the lineup to join a new act, Bulldog. When things didn't work out, he and Danelli took up spots in Fotomaker**. The group recorded a few albums in the late '70s before Cornish moved on to G.C. Dangerous. Before the '90s rolled in, Cornish and some of the other members from the original Rascals reunited for a brief time to do small tours and even to make a few television appearances. They performed together again in 1997 as part of the ceremony when the group was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. That same year, Cornish released an album, Live at Palisades Amusement Park, that presented his pre-Rascals recordings, including "I Wanna Be a Beatle," "Rockin' Robin," "Peanuts," "What'd I Say," "You're Gonna Cry Someday," and even Cole Porter's "I Love Paris." ~ Charlotte Dillon & Bruce Eder, All Music Guide" ** Is "Ringo's" ROTOGRAVURE supposed to give a clue to FOTOMAKER ?A rotogravure was a "photo-maker" in the early newspaper days. here's a photo: www.bayarearadio.org/holliday/holliday_gene-cornish.shtmlcouldn't resist........
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 7, 2006 3:55:52 GMT
it occurs to me how mal evans has that statuesque presence in all these early beatles photos....that is so easily picked out of a crowd. are there any pix of him STANDING next to faul? i remember the one with him and paul in the park, when that crazed fan approached him. Mal seemed burly but athletic swimming in Help!, and a bit later, more toward the chunkier, heftier figure. (not a critique) I imagine his security obligations increased when William came on board. Wait--hmmmmm...that in itself predisposes two possibilities. They were providing security for the new Paul in case there were problems, or issues, OR they were BEEFING UP security because of a PRIOR problem with James Paul---and they didn't want it to happen again. Mal almost seems like his minder/keeper/bodyguard in the first year or so (in the photos)........yet as far as we can see, neither John, george, nor Ringo had any such special security arrangement. As if it were assumed that the only potential security "issues" of major concern would involve......Paul. If the other boys had bodyguards---they seem to have "faded into the background".......but Mal is always, especially started with late '66, practically featured with Paul in the PR!
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 7, 2006 4:26:12 GMT
Thank you Perplexed. I appreciate the compliment. Look at this amazing little bit of trivia: www.answers.com/topic/gene-cornish"Gene Cornish was born in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, in May of 1945. Music was a part of his life from almost the start, since his mother was a professional singer during his childhood. While he was still very small he moved with her to the United States and soon settled in New York. There he mastered the guitar, and learned to hold his own with the harmonica, bass, drums, and as a singer. By the early '60s, young Cornish was making the rounds of local clubs and bars, performing with a number of rock acts and even working solo for a while. One of the groups was called Joey Dee & the Starlighters, where Cornish met vocalist Eddie Brigati and keyboardist Felix Cavaliere. By 1964, Cornish was fronting a group called the Unbeatables, whose sound was remarkably similar to what the Rascals would later create, albeit more primitive and far more derivative of several earlier pop music forms. They were an R&B-based club band, equally at home on slow ballads ("Happy Birthday, Baby," "Talk To Me") or fast dance numbers. The group was still tied to the influence of early-'60s pop/rock, retaining elements of harmony vocal music in their work, and represented essentially a transitional phase between early-'60s doo wop and the sound that Cornish was to perfect with Cavaliere and Brigati in the Rascals. The Unbeatables, whose name was likely a play on the Beatles' name, made a small splash in 1964 with the single "I Wanna Be a Beatle," and amid their harmony vocals and old-style rock & roll numbers, they showed the influence of the British Invasion on songs like "Oh! Misery." They never attracted more than middling sales or middle-level gigs, however, and were history by 1965. That year, the three friends teamed up with drummer Dino Danelli to form a little group who were at first called the Young Rascals. A year later, Cornish saw the release of his debut album with the band. A few big hits helped the band's fame grow quickly. Cornish enjoyed the ride with his friends until 1971, when he stepped out of the lineup to join a new act, Bulldog. When things didn't work out, he and Danelli took up spots in Fotomaker**. The group recorded a few albums in the late '70s before Cornish moved on to G.C. Dangerous. Before the '90s rolled in, Cornish and some of the other members from the original Rascals reunited for a brief time to do small tours and even to make a few television appearances. They performed together again in 1997 as part of the ceremony when the group was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. That same year, Cornish released an album, Live at Palisades Amusement Park, that presented his pre-Rascals recordings, including "I Wanna Be a Beatle," "Rockin' Robin," "Peanuts," "What'd I Say," "You're Gonna Cry Someday," and even Cole Porter's "I Love Paris." ~ Charlotte Dillon & Bruce Eder, All Music Guide" ** Is "Ringo's" ROTOGRAVURE supposed to give a clue to FOTOMAKER ?A rotogravure was a "photo-maker" in the early newspaper days. here's a photo: www.bayarearadio.org/holliday/holliday_gene-cornish.shtmlcouldn't resist........ Well, these guys were all peers and starting playing together in the same music game at the same halcyon time before the darker, but revolutionary, days beginning after 1966. That sentence basically sucks in a literary sense but you catch my riff.
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Post by plastic paul on Jun 7, 2006 9:52:45 GMT
. Mal almost seems like his minder/keeper/bodyguard in the first year or so (in the photos)........yet as far as we can see, neither John, george, nor Ringo had any such special security arrangement. As if it were assumed that the only potential security "issues" of major concern would involve......Paul. Now that's a very good point, i'd never even thought about that, yet it seems so blatantly obvious. From what i've seen/heard/read Mal always seemed like a nice guy, I still think the circumstances surrounding his death don't add up, I feel he was killed to be permanently kept from revealing any information.
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Post by LUCY on Jun 8, 2006 3:38:35 GMT
Well, these guys were all peers and starting playing together in the same music game at the same halcyon time before the darker, but revolutionary, days beginning after 1966. That sentence basically sucks in a literary sense but you catch my riff. actually I was riffing on the DJ's name, JOHNNY HOLIDAY. Sorry still can't post photos...I am pretty lame-o.
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Post by Sun King™ on Feb 23, 2007 22:21:44 GMT
image heavy .... please wait .... I see Dino Danelli's not McCartney's smile on Melody Makers Award ... So I saw Paul no more after Los Angeles ... after being on the Blue Jay Way
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Post by cranberrysauce on Feb 23, 2007 23:15:14 GMT
Are you saying, Sun King, that Paul is not in the picture on the right? I find that very hard to believe for it sure looks like Paul to me.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Feb 24, 2007 5:14:45 GMT
And by the theory here of repalcements as it stands to date, that's not the original Ringo either?
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Post by Sun King™ on Feb 24, 2007 8:53:20 GMT
Are you saying, Sun King, that Paul is not in the picture on the right? I find that very hard to believe for it sure looks like Paul to me. I could agree if you will show here a photo where the true Paul has and the same chin when smiling .... And by the theory here of repalcements as it stands to date, that's not the original Ringo either? I see a thin nose on "Ringo's" face and a too wide eyes distance... Yes, Felix Cavaliere was there as a "temporary" Faux Ringo too. Waiting for Phil Ackril/ Billy Shepherd and Tara Browne as Faux-Paul and Faux-Ringo ...
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Post by Perplexed on Feb 28, 2007 7:11:46 GMT
image heavy .... please wait .... I see Dino Danelli's not McCartney's smile on Melody Makers Award ... So I saw Paul no more after Los Angeles ... after being on the Blue Jay Way That's a very compelling comparison there, between Dino and Paul or Bill or whichever is standing there with Dusty, Tom and Ringo.
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