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Post by StandingThere on Nov 18, 2003 14:48:21 GMT
I read something recently about Howard Hughs that sounded similar to what happened to Paul in the 60if brief. I read a claim that Howard Hughs was kiddnapped in 1957 and replaced by two doubles. Anyone who was alive during the time of Hughs may remember all the strange reports about him starting in 1957. That was about the time he became a recluse and until his reported death in 1975 the reports got stranger and stranger. At one point he stopped appearing in person completly and would do major bizz deals by phone only with a go-between acting as his represenative. Un-heard of as it would be like Bill Gates making his deals by phone. Who would believe that? The story goes that Hughs was not a member of "Them" and being he was a self made billionare the "Them" wanted him out of the picture so they ' could take over his empire. To the masses of brainwashed minds it seems completly unbelievable that something like this could happen to the worlds richest man at the time and I suspect some reading this now are rolling their eyes in dis-belief. Well,, Paul was in the worlds biggest show biz act ever and if we can accept the fact that "Them" kidnapped and killed him and Brian is it really so hard to believe that they did a similar thing to Howard Hughs. It is erriely similar to the 60if case and sets a precedent for Them' in pulling off the same kind of crime more then once. If anyone knows any more about the strange case of Howard Hughs please share any other info on this. In the meantime I'm going to see if more research on this will reveal more interesting similaritys.
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Post by StandingThere on Nov 30, 2003 15:39:42 GMT
Well it seems people can't see the similaritys in the two cases. From the posts I've seen lately most responces or talk has been mighty trivial. Looks like all the conspiricy folk have been run out of here. Too bad as anyone who knows anything about the illuminati agenda knows for a fact that all such cases like Faul :; howard are inter related even a cousin to the Kennedy case.. too bad as I happened to have found out who kidnapped Howard hughs in 57. Guess what the same person also had a hand in Nov.22 63, no it wasn't George H.W. Bush though he also played a role in Nov.22 but since no one cares I shall keep what I found to myself. You can all wait and watch the new movie about Howard coming out starring the guy from the Titantic... and believe the party line that movie will no doubt follow. I suppose if somebody came up with the identity of the person or persons who kidnapped Paul they would get flamed by one of the sites moniters for bringing politics into this mystery. You can NEVER get to the bottom of the Paul case without looking at the politics but one of the moniters said if politics is brought up here again the person would be banned! Well that wasn't here in the OC section but still it is ludicris and with that mind set the truth will never come up here as the person who has it will be banned as it does concern politics to the highest degree.. This site being password protected is just a sign that the thought police rule here and just like how the illuminati works in the press it is done this way to protect the masses from unpleasentness or as a real life example knowledge of the Kennedy murder was willfully surpressed from the public and the exscuuse given was and it was widely publisised to spare the members of the Kennedy family. Different aspect same ploy... Well people I will be traveling to other countries for the next two months and won't have a chance to check in here to see if the search for truth is in full swing or if it has been surpressed for fear of running off people so if this post don't get me banned doubtfull as nobody will read it well maybe the person who does the banning will read it and ban me no big loss but i hope to check back here sometime in feburaRY and see whats going on in here and hope to find that the complete 60if report is released. It should already be readily available as paticence has nothing to do with it for if we can find the truth why not release it all. Not releasing it is more of the same ole sameole need i remind people of the information that won't be released till we are all dead if then concerning Nov 22.. OK If you read this far The word is through good sorces that A.S. Onasis kidnapped Hughs but you won't see that in the upcoming movie. Yes that same bastard also had a hand in deciding JFK must die for you see JFK and his brother RFK wanted to put an end to the illuminatis plans and they paid the highest price. Though you probably heard how big of womanizers they were well that info was released solely for the purpose of ruining their reputations and credibility. They had great intentions and they died because they wanted to do the right thing. In the old days the bad guy and even in the old western movies the bad guy would get rid of the good guy and take off with his woman. who did Jackie Kennedy end up with? Yep most here probably remember her as Jackie O. Onassis big in the illuminati kidnapped Howard hughs and played a part in killing Kennedy and probably RFK too,, mmhhmmm He may also be one of those illuminati who at one of their meetings decided the fate of Paul and Brian I don't have that info but he is one name worth looking into. If you look into this evil man don't expect to find anything of use in CBS ABC NBC CNN archives or from the pages of Time and Newsweek all illuminati Controled orgs. But info on this creep is out there if you look to other sourses... but if one rejects the politics ones search for the truth will result in NOTHING.... cya in a couple of months unless I'm banned cos I brought up a dirty word heck shheeek kidnapping and murder is a dirty bizzness last time i checked and in murder inc politics is usually behind door number 3 and 2 greed and passion behind door number 1 but how many here think the death of Paul was a crime of passion or greed....?? ok I expect no replies well maybe a few flames but I won't be around for a couple of months to read them so flame on ,,politics,, has been swept under the rug.....!!! ;D
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Post by Nortatem on Nov 30, 2003 22:49:22 GMT
First off, let me say you have an interesting theory . I might add that any thing involving money is power. I am not a trivial poster ( although by the lack of replies to my own posts I some times feel alone here). I for one do not wholey agree with your Hughs theory; however, any time you have a wealthy industrialist playboy out there using his wealth to exploit his own ego i.e. Buying hollywood films and never letting others see them for his own amusement as with THe Conquerer, you will get wackos wanting a piece of the pie. Any time someone throws that kind of money around someone will try and bite. I am not sure he was abducted .He himself may very well have been high up in the Iluminati.
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Post by Perplexed on Dec 1, 2003 8:23:28 GMT
I think surely there have been a lot of organized conspiracies thru history. But, I think many times, and we can't discount the possibility, that it simply was the way it appeared. The reports were true. It (whatever the "it" is, Mr. Clinton, or "is" is, oh my gosh I wrote Isis the Egyptian godesses name that can only mean Im one of them-oh help[sijmvp ojrhvbapeirmvca[ijv[arj,v[poj,b[otpj.............................oops, forgive my nervous outburst. I'm OK now.
But I repeat. Of course there have been butt-loads of conspiracies. But sometimes couldn't history be just as ordinary and mundane as the way "THEY" told it to us.
All, I know is, as far as Hughes goes, evolving into the neurotic and eccentric man he has been depicted as makes sense. What would the illusion of him being kept alive do? Better for the PTB to get his estate issues resolved ASAP at death. They want their cut of the proceeds too. If anyone kept him alive, it might be people that wanted to retain control of all that jack as long as possible. I JMO think he lived to be a crusty lonely old hermit who freaked about germs and hid in a darkened hotel suite by day. A little bit like Dracula.
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Post by TotalInformation on Dec 23, 2003 18:31:34 GMT
Where did you get your information about Onassis?
I tend to think Hughes became a recluse because he was paranoid about being killed by the illuminated, and it was indeed him the whole time. But I'm certainly open to other information.
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Post by Sir60if on Aug 1, 2004 16:45:42 GMT
Has anyone read the "Gemstone File" by Bruce Roberts? It deals with this Hughes thing and many other conspiracies.
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Post by abbey on Aug 1, 2004 18:47:49 GMT
I may have to get the book and read it. I will have to say that I often wondered why a good-looking man-about-town who dated starlets and tons of money suddenly became a recluse. Not only was he reclusive, he begin acting very strangely.
He very well could have been replaced and no one would have really considered such a thing back then. We were more innocent and trusting in the '50's. May be the imposter was driven crazy by the lifestyles and be a puppet to those who put him there....or it was all BS about the eccentric behavior.
I often wondered what happened to his billions or millions or whatever since he had no known children and was single when he died. There were be a nice little "piggy bank" for THEM.
What a horrible and scary thought.
The Beatles were money makers for England. Paul was the "cute one" and probably the most popular. If he wanted out, THEY couldn't let that happen. So therefore, they needed him eliminated and someone who they could control to replace him so the money (taxes) would continue to fill their coffers. Also The Beatles were the beginning of the so-called beginning of The British Invasion. Other British groups followed them and made money for the Crown.
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Post by gracemer on Aug 1, 2004 19:05:34 GMT
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Post by gracemer on Aug 1, 2004 20:53:13 GMT
Just realized that Hughes was older than the young photo of him at the time of the crash so there's no point in comparing. I think it's the same guy except the nose and ear look different.
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Post by Chris on Aug 2, 2004 14:21:00 GMT
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Post by The Taxman on Aug 2, 2004 16:39:20 GMT
In all of this...and some of this stuff, although very real in our time, is quite spooky and a grabber of headlines. Hughes is really important to all this, for sure, but it is important to note that Hughes INHERITED his money. He got his initial $20 million from his father, H.H. Hughes, Sr., who built a huge tool company, The Hughes Tool Company, laying the entire thing on his only son and heir. I believe that Hughes may have had a bite of the original 20th Century Illum's but didn't like what he saw and went forth on his own. It may well be that Hughes was a victim of drug testing in the original form and became a recluse, shot out and paranoid to the neckbones til his death. Howie turned Hughes Tool into Summa Corp and began buying up Ca real estate and owns a huge portion of the beach areas near LA airport. In real estate there is no such thing as anti trust so he succeeded wildly. I would not be surprised to find he had plenty to do with Area 51. This also threads back to the disappearance of Amelia Earhart, something which most folks buy as a legit disappearance at sea and that's all she wrote. Being that there is a huge amount of visible and concrete evidence that she crashed, due to lack of fuel, on a reef bound atoll named Milli in the southern end of the Marshall Islands, was picked up by the Japanese, taken to a hospital on Jaluit (some few miles from Milli) to fix Fred Noonan's injuries sustained in the crash landing, taken then to Saipan and imprisoned, grilled and kept there as American spies, and eventually executed. More than likely the two lived through the end of WWII and the Japanese panicked at the thought of keeping the two and not saying a word, in fact denying anything about them even to today, and then bumped the two off and buried them somewhere on Saipan. Similar to Paul, for me, in that I never believed she simply went down and that was it. I never believed Faul as soon as they showed his face. Let us understand that Earhart, like Paul, was perceived as a rich, famous personage who seemed to have some influence in major and important public "things" of the day. It would not surprise me to find that Earhart and Paul were approached by Illuminati and refused to cooperate. Paul was changing the face of music and entertainment and acceptance of alternate "things" (LSD and such) and Earhart was changing the perception of women in "men's" positions. Similarly, it ties into Hughes.
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Post by gracemer on Aug 2, 2004 18:45:17 GMT
Interesting observations there, Taxman.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 7, 2004 17:22:17 GMT
NO WAY that is the same man. So...Hughes in the "Dig It" list too? The original "Dig It" last 10 minutes......
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Post by gracemer on Aug 7, 2004 18:13:54 GMT
I just noticed that Dig It was written by all four Beatles, not just Lennon-McCartney. That must mean something. Beatle Paul, you seem pretty sure of yourself. Will you elaborate?
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Post by TotalInformation on Aug 7, 2004 20:43:12 GMT
"Dig It" was an 8+ minute jam session. Lennon freestyled the lyrics included in the Spector cut.
The whole sequence is in the "Let It Be" film.
Harrison gets a big sh*t-eating grin on his face when Lennon hits Doris Day.
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Post by PaulBearer on Jan 27, 2005 9:23:46 GMT
You know, this whole Howard Hughs suddenly deciding to be a recluse thing makes me wonder about Gretta Garbo. Just why DID she suddenly decide she wanted to be alone? Was she replaced too?
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Post by Pat on Jan 27, 2005 11:49:34 GMT
but since no one cares I shall keep what I found to myself. lol i stopped reading your post there, i hate people that say sh|t like that
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Post by abbey on Jan 27, 2005 18:03:36 GMT
P.B., I wouldn't be surprised !
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Post by gracemer on Jun 12, 2005 2:20:31 GMT
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 12, 2005 23:57:22 GMT
An impressive find, Gracemer!
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Post by madtitan125 on Jul 17, 2005 16:26:25 GMT
Well, this is friggin' going too far! But it makes perfect sense.
Don't even make me start about the MULTIPLE REPLACEMENTS FOR JOHN PAUL II.
Now, there wuz a guy, who could shift heights, faces, ears, etc.
Too bad I haven't figured out how to post photos.
The USA Today special edition even arranged their pages to have side-by-side photo, done for our comparison. Unspoken, of course.
The powers that be never really lie to us. They always make sure to release the truth in some way, shape or form. And when we don't get it, or make anyone acknowledge anything, its like we just accepted it. They make us accept their lies.
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Post by abbey on Jul 17, 2005 20:16:31 GMT
I think George said it well....Brainwashed! We see or hear but it just washes over us and we don't pay attention like we should.
Bill has done the same thing. Such as his comment about the other Beatles being "his younger brothers. He has made other slip ups and people, myself included, have not really paid attention to until a later date.
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