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Post by burymore on Jan 25, 2009 1:36:20 GMT
Okay, I am one of those people that is not very impressed with the evidence presented here. Personally I think that Paul from 1964 looks like Paul of 1974, Paul of 1984 etc.
But I am not here to fight about that. If people want to believe it, its no problem for me. Actually its a fun way of getting people to closely look at one of the greatest musical genuses of all time.
Which brings me to the major reason that I dont believe Paul ever died, and was replaced by a double. His voice and musical talent have never wavered in the last 45 years. The voice that sang I Saw Her Standing There is the same voice that sang Hey Jude. In addition, Pauls output of songs improved as the Beatles went on. Add to that his solo and Wings work, and you have a consistant body of work. Sheesh, Band on the Run, and Tug of War are GENUIS albums, as good as anything Paul produced as a Beatle.
So we are to believe that not only were there two true mega musical genius's in the Beatles, that they were able to find a guy that looked mostly like Paul, sounded exactly like Paul, and also was able to produce levels of music every bit as good as the pre 1967 Paul? Sheesh the "fake" can even play musical instruments left handed.......
Its just a slap in the face of the talent of someone like Paul McCartney, to believe he could be replaced so completely, without a hiccup.
Oh and by the way...registering for this site is the most clunky, annoying process ever. Someone should look into that.
Looking forward to everyone yelling at me how wrong I am. I am curious to see what people think.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jan 31, 2009 2:03:25 GMT
What about the 80s and 90s? His music went down the gurgler until "Flaming Pie".
But you're wrong. While some of the solo work from the 70s is quite enjoyable, it is still lacks the depth of tune and sensitivity of such songs as "Eleanor Rigby", "Yesterday", and "Michelle".
His inconsistecy of style is due to having different ghost writers. Elton John wrote some of his 70s music. Listen to the words of "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" where Elton laments of taking such a role.
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Post by burymore on Jan 31, 2009 19:37:12 GMT
So you think that the stuff Paul wrote pre-1966 is much better than anything off of Sgt Peppers, Abby Road, Let it Be, or any of his solo stuff? I mean, I like Yesterday, but its not better than Hey Jude or Maybe I'm Amazed.
You should listen to Tug of War again. Its an absolutely fantastic album....certainly not "down the gurgler" as you claim.
Sheesh, lets be honest, Double Fantasy was mostly garbage, and no one is claiming that Lennon didnt write everything he performed on it. There are changes in how an artist performs as they get older, no matter who they are.
And none of this addresses how Pauls voice has remained consistant from the beginning of his career until now. They found a guy that LOOKED like Paul, sounded like Paul, and could even play the bass left handed like Paul? Wouldnt someone like Denny Laine have noticed if Paul McCartney was suddenly unable to write a song?
What evidence do you have that Elton John ghost wrote for Paul? Sheesh, Elton doesnt even WRITE music....only lyrics. So was Bernie Taupin involved with this plot too?
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Post by romanruins on Feb 1, 2009 11:00:19 GMT
What about the music you enlighten us with your dismissal of the "evidence " at this site in one sentence. Thank you for starting this tread about your summary opinion of this site. Your critique of the Physical Evidence section of this site is devastating, and total. We are fools without you. Paul McCartney's voice is not the same from 1964 to 1974 etc. If you look at a stereo you will see that there are Base, and Tremble "nobs". Records, and media using sound are "Produced " in "studios" where there are many "nobs", and "dials". Live Concerts have "Sound Engineers". As a quick study you might like to know that the Recording Industry are "Commercial Ventures", and I've heard "The Beatles " were the largest Export Earner for Britain in the Mid-Sixties. I will establish my bonifids for this by writing Taxman. I must mediate for many hours on your sentence that some of us are guilty of slapping Paul McCartney in his artistic face. While I do I have Two questions for you as an established expert on The Beatles. 1.) How many records, CDs, DVDs and like items have "The Beatles" sold to date? 2.) What is the Movie "Magical Mystery Tour" about? What is the coherent story line? What is the message of the Film? How do the scenes fit together? Flame On.
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Post by Cosmic Love on Feb 2, 2009 16:53:17 GMT
Elton doesnt even WRITE music....only lyrics. So was Bernie Taupin involved with this plot too? Actually, Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics and Elton wrote the music for their songs. You have it backwards. Although Elton could have written lyrics for Faul if he'd wanted to, and may very well have, as far as Bernie and Elton's songwriting partership goes, it was Bernie who wrote the words.
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Post by burymore on Feb 4, 2009 1:49:52 GMT
What about the music you enlighten us with your dismissal of the "evidence " at this site in one sentence. Thank you for starting this tread about your summary opinion of this site. Your critique of the Physical Evidence section of this site is devastating, and total. We are fools without you. Paul McCartney's voice is not the same from 1964 to 1974 etc. If you look at a stereo you will see that there are Base, and Tremble "nobs". Records, and media using sound are "Produced " in "studios" where there are many "nobs", and "dials". Live Concerts have "Sound Engineers". As a quick study you might like to know that the Recording Industry are "Commercial Ventures", and I've heard "The Beatles " were the largest Export Earner for Britain in the Mid-Sixties. I will establish my bonifids for this by writing Taxman. I must mediate for many hours on your sentence that some of us are guilty of slapping Paul McCartney in his artistic face. While I do I have Two questions for you as an established expert on The Beatles. 1.) How many records, CDs, DVDs and like items have "The Beatles" sold to date? 2.) What is the Movie "Magical Mystery Tour" about? What is the coherent story line? What is the message of the Film? How do the scenes fit together? Flame On. Paul has plenty of live performances in the last forty years, that dont have the benefit of any studio tricks to fall back on. There are countless spoken interviews as well...you can compare the spoken voice of Paul in Hard Days Night to Let it Be anytime you want. Of all the Beatles, he has, by a vast margin, the most concerts performed and interviews given.....there are no studio tricks there. No amount of Bass and Treble usage is going to make you or me sound like Paul McCartney. The guy has sung acapella countless times as well...no studio tricks possible there. It is a dismissal of Pauls talent, when the people on this site can honestly believe that all the great stuff that Paul has done can be so easily replicated. It certainly seems a lot more believable that the man that made Maybe I;m Amazed also did Let it Be and also did Yesterday...than to believe that there were two, near identical twins with almost identical voices that were almost the exact same age, in England.....much less that these two people were also musical genius I have never once met anyone that both looks AND sounds like me....not even close, in my decades of life. Yet one of the most famous people that has ever lived, with countless photos of him and endless tapings of his voice had a twin? As for the questions you asked? Well for number one....A lot. For number two...to me its about bad moviemaking.
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Post by burymore on Feb 4, 2009 1:51:02 GMT
Elton doesnt even WRITE music....only lyrics. So was Bernie Taupin involved with this plot too? Actually, Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics and Elton wrote the music for their songs. You have it backwards. Although Elton could have written lyrics for Faul if he'd wanted to, and may very well have, as far as Bernie and Elton's songwriting partership goes, it was Bernie who wrote the words. You are absolutely right, and I was completely backwards there. Thank you for pointing that out to me.
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Post by romanruins on Feb 4, 2009 7:51:56 GMT
What about the music? The answer to the first Question is at; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_best-selling_music_artists#1_billion_records_or_more. You are wrong on Question Two also, and slurring "Paul McCartney's " name writing that He would be part of a film made to no real purpose but released to the public any way. At the end of the British Army "Recruitment Office" scene where Paul is setting at the desk that has the Name Plate saying "I was Him" Richard Starkey asks "WHY" after listening to Victor Spinetti's Army Sargent blusters speech. That Scene ends and the Film goes to a pasture with them, and a plastic Dairy Cow. The Sargent (Major- like in the song Jet) stands in front of it and among other things says "Huey, Huey " while wigging his hips like a Army Sargent impersonating (a word you should look up What about) a "rock and roller". The Cow being plastic in the pasture is Symbolical. Its there in the film. The cow makes one more appearance in the film in aunt Jessie's (I think Brian Epstine) dream. So what if there are other Symbols in the Film What About? The Beatles had all ready made two very successful films which people can watch, and compare the Paul in them, and the Paul in MMT. ( humm) Since Paul was born in 1942 his facial features where already set in by the time He was in A Hard Days Night. What about the music? You don't address any of the evidence at this site, and set up straw arguments that no one has purposed here (and anyone can purpose anything here) like identical twins. Pauls Voice is not the same after August of 1966. www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBAWPEBpnNg&feature=channel_pageGo to the Essential Section, Hi Res Comparison thread, and look at the eyes in the FIRST post. If Your mind is made up, why are you continuing to Post here. I've heard there are a lot sites on the internet.
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Post by Cosmic Love on Feb 4, 2009 13:29:22 GMT
Actually, Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics and Elton wrote the music for their songs. You have it backwards. Although Elton could have written lyrics for Faul if he'd wanted to, and may very well have, as far as Bernie and Elton's songwriting partership goes, it was Bernie who wrote the words. You are absolutely right, and I was completely backwards there. Thank you for pointing that out to me. Not at all. Everyone makes mistakes now and then. Glad to help.
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Post by romanruins on Feb 5, 2009 6:07:04 GMT
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Post by Sun King™ on Feb 5, 2009 12:48:52 GMT
... it was NOT me who SPLIT Beatles discography that way ...
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Post by peoplescommittee on Feb 24, 2009 21:54:10 GMT
It's also not you who pointed out that Paul looks the bloody same in both photographs. I know, I know, they've been doctored
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