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Post by bass1965 on Jan 29, 2011 1:26:52 GMT
Well, here goes my 1st official post after my introduction post:)
I have been following the Paul is Dead story for a while now, and I have had a break through with some new to me information, that I would like to share.
The 1st revelation is that the timeline is not accurate.
Paul's departure must of happened between 1964 (A Hard Days Night) and 1965 (HELP). My reasoning for this is simple, Paul's voice disappeared after A Hard Days Night. He is not present at all vocally on the Help track, and on the night before, I can't even begin to explain who is singing on that track!
I have been a multi-instrumentalist for 36 years, and have taught myself how to play music by using my ear. With that said, I have more discoveries to share.
The fool on the hill is actually George singing, as is Yesterday, when I'm 64, and Good Morning, Good Morning(Lead Vocal). I am 100% certain of these tracks. George had a very distinct vibrato that is unmistakable. Yesterday really starts out sounding like Paul, but his I's and stay's are undeniable. Have a listen to these songs with the thought that George is singing, and you will hear the same thing I do.
Well, there you go, interested in hearing your thoughts.
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Post by bass1965 on Jan 30, 2011 2:15:29 GMT
No thoughts or responses?
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Post by matrix on Jan 30, 2011 7:44:19 GMT
dunno but i just found this during reading about 30 odd places on the net about the pid rumor anyone want to explain the background or why this guy has said this?? pid90066.tripod.com/ |
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Post by bass1965 on Jan 31, 2011 2:04:59 GMT
Well, As far as the 60IF goes, I don't know what to think. As far as all the clues from Help and on, as well as Pauls' appearance from Help and on, I started to listen to the music from A Hard Day's Night up to SGT Pepper. I figure that within this time period, I should be able to hear the very beginnings of the cover up, and the introduction of Faul. There is more than enough examples of George, John and Ringo singing both with the Beatles, and on solo albums to make some conclusions. My time table makes alot of sense when you combine some facts like the McCartney look alike contest in 1965, and the actual music that was released. On the HELP album, I do believe that the song I just seen a face is the real Paul. Maybe this was a track that did not make it on previous albums, but everything else to my ear is void of Paul. Yesterday was a huge suprise for me to discover. This song is such a revered iconic song linked with Paul, but I tell you the truth, I truely believe that this is George Harrison singing. I say this due to distinct vocal characteristics that are present in each of there voices. My ear is highly trained, and I am able to hear these things. It may be hard for alot of people to understand what I am saying, but if you have a trained ear, and a open mind, then maybe you will hear it too. I have search for the right forum to present this on, and although there is some wild theories hear about what has and is still happening, I sense that there is alot of passion to find the truth here. So, lets talk about this, and either discount it, or maybe find some truth in it. Either way, this should be enlightening.
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Post by romanruins on Jan 31, 2011 5:37:17 GMT
Hello bass1965,
Who is singing the song Another Girl in 1965 by your Ear, and just to be clear your saying that George's voice is singing Yesterday? Also could you clear up the sentences "On the Help Album, I do believe that the song I just seen a face is the real Paul. Maybe this was...,.... is void of Paul."
Cheers,
Ruins
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Post by bass1965 on Feb 1, 2011 2:00:58 GMT
I agree, I also believe that Paul is singing on Another Girl. I forgot about that one.
And, I do think that George is singing Yesterday. The higher registers are clearer than Pauls, and the vibrato on the I's and other words such as away, believe, and countless other key words. It is especially easy to hear midway and towards the end of the song. It takes about 3-4 listens one after the other to start to really hear it. I was on the fence about this one in particular for quit awhile, but now I am convinced it is George.
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Post by romanruins on Feb 6, 2011 19:40:46 GMT
Hello,
Paul sang Yesterday. They performed it a total of 26 times live while on Tour, 24 times in 1966. Its Paul's voice. If you U-tube it you can see Paul performing it.
Cheers,
Ruins
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Post by romanruins on Feb 8, 2011 7:13:02 GMT
dunno but i just found this during reading about 30 odd places on the net about the pid rumor anyone want to explain the background or why this guy has said this?? pid90066.tripod.com/dunno, but His statement is Confused, and like He says without any Evidence. How does He know SunKing is dishonest about how He came across the letter, and that was SunKing's first knowledge that Paul had been replaced. My memory is that SunKing has a photo of Him with the Real Paul before Sept. 1, 1966. It could be a Endorsed Explanation He had at the Time "by People in the know", and in the biz. He brings up the "Mrs. Robinson" aside without refuting it, and by what's written endorsing it. What Paul was Alive in 2004? (Billy/Faux?) Let me know if I missed something. cheers, Ruins |
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Post by bass1965 on Feb 9, 2011 3:24:12 GMT
Hello, Paul sang Yesterday. They performed it a total of 26 times live while on Tour, 24 times in 1966. Its Paul's voice. If you U-tube it you can see Paul performing it. Cheers, Ruins I realize that there is video of Faul singing yesterday. After listening to the original audio, I believe that George originally sang it. The time line of 1966 is not making any sense for Paul's exit either. The whole 60IF just isn't adding up for me. I am looking into the american dates from 1964, as well as early 1965. This time frame really seems to me, to be the actual time frame for the beginning. The HELP album is with out a doubt, the beginning of all this in my opinion, and it really discredits the 60IF document, and the Paul really is Dead video that came out late last year. I have read alot of the things that have been written here, and alot of it is way out there, but I am giving it alot of thought with an open mind. Just because we have a video of Faul singing yesterday, does not mean that he actually performed it in the studio. What about Fool on the Hill. There are multiple videos of Faul stating that he wrote and performed it, yet I am 100% certain that George sang this song. When I'm 64, Emerick states that they speed up the tape machine a half step up to make Faul sound younger. They would have had to speed it up more like 1-1/2 steps to make it sound like that, yet it sounds like George. The instruments would have sounded different also. |
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Post by romanruins on Feb 12, 2011 6:52:28 GMT
Hello, To see Paul preform the song "Yesterday" without back-up except for a violin; www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONXp-vpE9eU&feature=fvwrelThe feature length Motion Picture HELP filmed with Movie Studio State of the Art (1965) equipment says Paul played Himself in it. Anyone can look at it at YouTube. Cheers, Ruins |
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Post by romanruins on Feb 12, 2011 8:02:07 GMT
bass1965,
You don't have any "original audio" unless it was bootlegged out of the studio, and unless you bootlegged it how do you know its original? ;D
Ruins
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Post by bass1965 on Feb 15, 2011 1:53:10 GMT
Original audio being the original recording on the HELP album.
The smoking gun to Paul being replaced for me is more The Fool on the Hill. Yesterday isn't as convincing to me as The Fool on the Hill. And Faul explains in great detail how he wrote and performed this track. I would also like to suggest an open mind in talking about these few tracks, instead of, I saw Faul singing it on You Tube, or he performed it 26 times live. My point is more the fact that things started happening in the studio in 1965, not 1966. This is why I titled the thread Revelation. I know alot of you on this board hold the 60IF sacred, but I beg to differ that document. The statements in 60IF, and on other related offerings just aren't adding up with visuals and audio between late 1964 and 1965. I have a suspicion that he never made it out of the American tour. With that said, I need to find proof to back it up. I have been searching photos and footage from this time period.
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Post by vibvib on Mar 8, 2011 12:21:29 GMT
Hi friends: I agree with bass1965: the best way to play any instrument/vocal track is using our ear like radar. I am a musician too, (just one instrument) since 20 years ago and still working on stage. By the other hand i think the breaking point was "Rubber Soul". The drastic change in the songs structure of that album is pretty obvious. Help maybe has not been fully recorded with James Paul McCartney's voice on certain tracks. By other way i can't recognize the voice of George on Yesterday (really). I think "when I'm 64" was sung by another man. I also believe "A little help from my friends" was sung by another guy (No Ringo). George had a very particular way for pronouncing words. Listen his entire solo discography and make your own conclusion. I love "James Paul McCartney" but i also think his voice has been replaced. Anyway... If i've to be honest I must state...the best albums are from "Rubber Soul" forward. Just a tip: listen The Beatles' albums after Rubber Soul & the solo albums of George, John & ? reversed. Too many puzzles around, if Paul didn't die they've done everything possible to make us believe the hoax!! John has been a well known Lewis Carroll fan he liked the word puzzles -forward & backwards- just like "Alice Through the looking glass." God bless u all! And....... like John said: -------------------------------------------Remember love!------------------------------------------- That was true boy that was true!  |
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Post by bass1965 on Mar 13, 2011 16:57:45 GMT
The best way to clearly hear George on Yesterday is to sing along with it. Then sing along with known Paul songs that are similar in tone and tempo such as Tll there was you. Paul for the most part sang in one particular key, and it was much lower than the key that Yesterday was sung in. Paul was not as melodic a singer as George was. That is the biggest difference in there styles. If you sing along with Yesterday and Fool on the hill, you will find that they are the same voice.
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Post by bass1965 on Apr 3, 2011 17:32:06 GMT
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Post by bloscoe on Apr 9, 2011 19:04:31 GMT
Now THAT was a weird statement that John said at the 5:00 mark. It sounded like John went, "Thank you Paul!! You sounded just like him!"  Very intriguing........ |
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Post by dmystified on May 14, 2011 3:53:57 GMT
Here's Paul singing "Michelle" but they show a progression of how he looked over the years. It's a mix of Paul and Faul photos, but of course the person who put it together doesn't seem to know that.
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