How terrible

[plastic paul]

I have to say i hadn't really listened to golden slumbers for a good couple of years, and it just so happened that i was listening to my beatle mp3s on "shuffle" setting and at one point it went like this: For No One; Here, There and Everywhere; Golden Slumbers.

I was unbelievably shocked to the core, i felt sick, comparing the latter two in particularly the chorus of golden slumbers, it's undeniable proof that PID

How could such a gentle, soft, melodic voice that doesn't struggle be the same voice that sings so raspy and roughly?

O thats right he had a cold didn't he, my mistake, I dont think so

[cavendish]

I've noticed that when I listened to other songs from Abbey Road.
Paul's harmony seemed almost effortless. Bill seems to have to force out the notes.
You'll find no gentle harmonies coming from HIM

[ReallyReallyDead]

Golden Slumbers is sung by the "imitator"

For an even more obvious difference, listen to Her Majesty, then Oh Darling.

Same guy my random body part! ;D

[beldabeast]

Or " Till There Was You , then Helen Wheels

[abbey]

Paul would never sound like that even if he had a cold. Also his harmonies with John were perfect; for example, There's a Place. Bill has to strain too hard.

No one will ever really replace the real, genuine JPM.

[plastic paul]

Precisely

[cavendish]

And it's a shame

[The Duke of Spiders]

Listen to how easily Paul manages the rockers like "Long Tall Sally" or "Kansas City" or "I'm Down" and then compare to Faul on "Oh Darling" or "Get Back" or "Helter Skelter" and there's no comparison, Paul could easily hit the high notes in his full singing voice and Faul has to do it in his falcetto.

[defhermit]

I hate being devil's advocate all the time, but as a singer I have to tell you that your vocal range DOES change with age and it can become hard to hit notes you hit easily as a youth... also, speaking as someone who smokes his share of marijuana, that affects it a lot as well...

[ReallyReallyDead]

defhermit said:

also, speaking as someone who smokes his share of marijuana, that affects it a lot as well...

I command you to quit! ;D

[TPIMaster]

Faul singing high is squeeky-like to me, which isn't the way Paul would've sung. Remember the old days? It came to my attention that in live versions, Paul always sung lower. Faul however sings high, and even with different accents sometime! How can people not recognize the difference?

Also, People always talk about the fifth Beatle. But WE all know who he is. Sir George Martin, Mal Evans, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon (from Simpsons, said that in the Maharishi Days he was known as the fifth Beatle ) etc... are the ones we could nominate as the sixth Beatle...

[Dr.No]

I find that after smoking marijana frequently, it does take the harsh edge off of my singing voice quite a bit. So I agree it can dramatically change your voice.

[byrdsmaniac]

I find that after smoking marijuana frequently, it does
um, uh, it um, what was I just saying? ;D

[TotalInformation]

It's a moot point of course in that we're discussing two different people.

JPM apparently used cannabis constantly since soon after they were introduced to it by Dylan. And he was a regular tobacco smoker before that. FauxPAUL appears to have been a constant, regular cannabis user from just about the time he appeared on the scene until his current minder got him off it a few years ago. So you're talking about two differnt baselines here.

And your experiences too, are subjective. I think what we need from you two are detailed voiceprint comparisons ... we also need to consider we don't what exact smoking implements each had. Wouldn't a bong packed with ice water take off much less edge?

Please get the necessary hardware and software and report back.

[trapacero]

And if it just doesn't sink in, listen to Billy on the rooftop concert and his awful vocalization on Get back (third try).

[plastic paul]

To be fair i think we're getting a little off topic here, it doesnt't matter jack whether its ganja or baccy, smoking in general will f**k ur voice up, Duke had it precisely when he mentioned "falsetto".

Bravo, I was waiting for that, "nail on head" springs to mind

[ReallyReallyDead]

guitarjon123 said:

I find that after smoking marijana frequently...

You too! (sheesh)

[cavendish]

Paul's voice will always be better than Bill's. Since they both smoked their share of tobacco & wacky weed, I don't see how we could judge how it effected either of their voices

[madtitan125]

If you really want to do a comparison, compare Eleanor Rigby from Revolver, then compare it with Eleanor Rigby, Faul McCartney the Second, Give My Regards To Broadstreet.

I challenge anyone to tell me these could possibly be the same person.

When I first heard Faul's Broadstreet version, it kind of cracked me up until I remembered what a sicko Faul is.

Here, you see why Faul never wanted to touch this material up to this point.

Faul just doesn't have the singing range to imitate the one and only James Paul McCartney.

[ReallyReallyDead]

madtitan125 said:

If you really want to do a comparison, compare Eleanor Rigby from Revolver, then compare it with Eleanor Rigby, Faul McCartney the Second, Give My Regards To Broadstreet.

I challenge anyone to tell me these could possibly be the same person.

When I first heard Faul's Broadstreet version, it kind of cracked me up until I remembered what a sicko Faul is.

Here, you see why Faul never wanted to touch this material up to this point.

Faul just doesn't have the singing range to imitate the one and only James Paul McCartney.

Ive never heard the Broadstreet version. Perhaps someone can provide a clip so I can hear it and have a good laugh. ;D

But why would he sing old stuff obviously already done by Paul? Its almost as if he wants us to notice

[abbey]

Everytime I hear him sing something that Paul originally sang and recorded, it makes me want to 'hug the porcelin bowl'. The man even destroyed George's "Something" in the Tribute to George Concert.

I've heard Faul sing "Here, There and Everywhere" and as per his lack of talent, he butchered the song.

[cavendish]

I recently listened to a CD with different artists doing unplugged versions of their songs. Suddenly, I'm listening to Bill sing "We Can Work it Out".
He blew the 1st line.
He stopped singing & apologized. He tried to play it off & said something like, " Well, it's good then that this is all so informal ".
He started over again.
I have yet to listen to him sing the whole song. It makes me feel sick inside to hear how badly he butchered that song