Post by Matt on Aug 14, 2003 5:19:39 GMT
Lady Madonna,
Yes, I agree, monkeys are amazing animals. However I assure you that Faul is not playing like a monkey.
It's true that the bassline for AYNIL more or less goes "do-do-do-do". Yet, hidden among the do-dos are subtle tonal flourishes, dynamic runs, and barely-perceptible octave jumps, appearing randomly outside of the do-do-do mainframe. Blink and you'll miss 'em.
I don't know classical music. To me, one orchestra-class violinist sounds exactly like another.
I do know rock music though. I think if I sat blindfolded in a room, and listened to Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton exchanging guitar solos at random, playing through the same amp on the same model guitars with the same tone settings, I could tell you who was playing when.
I don't think this is any great feat. I would say the same about the styles of most bass players and drummers I'm familiar with. (keyboards are not my forte). Admittedly I've never put this to the test.
Yes it's possible for a skilled musician to convincingly mimic another player's trademark style. I once saw Buddy Guy play a meddley of imitations- he did Hendrix, Clapton, B.B. King all very well, among others.
No offense, but based on your critical technical counter-analisys ("do-do-do-do"etc.) and on your own admission of "very bad" musical expertise, I don't find your opinion on this particular matter (the one bass line in question) to be of much relevance. I do however agree on many of the other points you've raised.
Uberkinder,
Yes there are actualy very few shots of Faul in the film, but I guarantee that there is enough evidence in those shots to convince that he is actualy playing the bass line that we're hearing, which, I insist, is not as simple as it sounds.
I agree that he has the somewhat awkward gesture of a righty playing left. I have yet to closely watch Paul's bass grip for comparison.
I know there are plenty of musicians on the forum. But so far all we've produced is a flurry of opinions.
If there are any experienced bass players reading this, who are confident in their abilities, and would like to scrutinise this film in conjunction with me, and go through it note-for-note fret-for-fret, I would welcome that. We could step outside the vagueries of this discussion and come to some technical conclusion.
Nobody else need be involved. You could wait for our "report".
This is if people consider this to be a point worth pursuing. Personally I think the implications are significant.
I'll leave it at that.
Yes, I agree, monkeys are amazing animals. However I assure you that Faul is not playing like a monkey.
It's true that the bassline for AYNIL more or less goes "do-do-do-do". Yet, hidden among the do-dos are subtle tonal flourishes, dynamic runs, and barely-perceptible octave jumps, appearing randomly outside of the do-do-do mainframe. Blink and you'll miss 'em.
I don't know classical music. To me, one orchestra-class violinist sounds exactly like another.
I do know rock music though. I think if I sat blindfolded in a room, and listened to Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton exchanging guitar solos at random, playing through the same amp on the same model guitars with the same tone settings, I could tell you who was playing when.
I don't think this is any great feat. I would say the same about the styles of most bass players and drummers I'm familiar with. (keyboards are not my forte). Admittedly I've never put this to the test.
Yes it's possible for a skilled musician to convincingly mimic another player's trademark style. I once saw Buddy Guy play a meddley of imitations- he did Hendrix, Clapton, B.B. King all very well, among others.
No offense, but based on your critical technical counter-analisys ("do-do-do-do"etc.) and on your own admission of "very bad" musical expertise, I don't find your opinion on this particular matter (the one bass line in question) to be of much relevance. I do however agree on many of the other points you've raised.
Uberkinder,
Yes there are actualy very few shots of Faul in the film, but I guarantee that there is enough evidence in those shots to convince that he is actualy playing the bass line that we're hearing, which, I insist, is not as simple as it sounds.
I agree that he has the somewhat awkward gesture of a righty playing left. I have yet to closely watch Paul's bass grip for comparison.
I know there are plenty of musicians on the forum. But so far all we've produced is a flurry of opinions.
If there are any experienced bass players reading this, who are confident in their abilities, and would like to scrutinise this film in conjunction with me, and go through it note-for-note fret-for-fret, I would welcome that. We could step outside the vagueries of this discussion and come to some technical conclusion.
Nobody else need be involved. You could wait for our "report".
This is if people consider this to be a point worth pursuing. Personally I think the implications are significant.
I'll leave it at that.