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Post by SunKing on Aug 10, 2003 15:05:43 GMT
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Post by Chris on Aug 10, 2003 23:02:58 GMT
Hello Adrianas. Welcome to our family. Sun King asked me to help you. That's a good question about the families. Personally, I feel that James Paul's dad must've known. I have no idea how they achieved his silence. He died in the 1970's. To be honest, I can't think of a nice way for them to do it. So, I would guess that he was either told it was a matter of national security & he was under penalty of death, if he spoke about it. Or he was just downright threatened with death. Paul's sister was little when he died. So, I guess that she might know deep down inside that something's not right. However, since she was so young when the switch was made, she might just think that it's her imagination. As far as how they can get away with it... Who knows. It's a very large & pervasive conspiracy. There's the death penalty for all who speak about it. I'm sure that family members are also threatened with death. I know that this all sounds very cloak & dagger. I honestly don't know how else to put it. I can't imagine it being any other way. If it was, someone surely would've come forward by now. Alot of people in the Beatles inner circle have died mysteriously over the years... As far as where James Paul is buried, it's a mystery that I for one, am working on right now. I feel in my heart that his spirit won't rest until his body is found, he's given a proper burial ( if necessary ) & he is given credit for ALL his work... Faul has managed to take credit for everything that James Paul did. This is just WRONG... Love to all... Chris
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Post by Uberkinder on Aug 11, 2003 11:22:33 GMT
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Post by JoJo on Sept 29, 2003 22:22:57 GMT
Hey Sun King, I loved that Mystery Tour page. I just got through watching it myself last night, and that part of the Blue Jay Way video with the body on I would guess a guerney really jumped out at me. Went through that frame by frame just to be sure, but wow! I'm in the process of digitizing the video, but it's a real poor quality tape, hard to believe it's a commercial release and not a bootleg. I was going to frame grab that scene myself, but since you already did, oh well.. Are your pics from a DVD version?
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Post by SunKing on Sept 29, 2003 22:52:58 GMT
Hey Sun King,... Are your pics from a DVD version? Yes!
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Post by beldabeast on Sept 30, 2003 1:41:44 GMT
Hello Adrianas. Welcome to our family. Sun King asked me to help you. That's a good question about the families. Personally, I feel that James Paul's dad must've known. I have no idea how they achieved his silence. He died in the 1970's. To be honest, I can't think of a nice way for them to do it. So, I would guess that he was either told it was a matter of national security & he was under penalty of death, if he spoke about it. Or he was just downright threatened with death. Paul's sister was little when he died. So, I guess that she might know deep down inside that something's not right. However, since she was so young when the switch was made, she might just think that it's her imagination. As far as how they can get away with it... Who knows. It's a very large & pervasive conspiracy. There's the death penalty for all who speak about it. I'm sure that family members are also threatened with death. I know that this all sounds very cloak & dagger. I honestly don't know how else to put it. I can't imagine it being any other way. If it was, someone surely would've come forward by now. Alot of people in the Beatles inner circle have died mysteriously over the years... As far as where James Paul is buried, it's a mystery that I for one, am working on right now. I feel in my heart that his spirit won't rest until his body is found, he's given a proper burial ( if necessary ) & he is given credit for ALL his work... Faul has managed to take credit for everything that James Paul did. This is just WRONG... Love to all... Chris Also , the news can lie and they know it makes no difference if some people know the truth. I was at a very angry town hall meeting and the news reported it as a very amicable , calm affair . There were 200 people there who knew better AND it was a local story !
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Post by MotherNaureSon on Sept 30, 2003 7:23:40 GMT
Hey SK, some text would be helpful. There are many pictures in wich I don't find any clue
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Post by MotherNaureSon on Oct 1, 2003 9:31:59 GMT
Sun King,
do you find any meaning in the dwarf and the bycicle scene of MMT?
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Post by SunKing on Oct 1, 2003 9:58:36 GMT
Sun King, do you find any meaning in the dwarf and the bycicle scene of MMT? The "dwarf" -> James Paul Faul -> Faul The tandem bicycle -> the role inside The Beatles The "dwarf" lying as dead. Faul is standing as receiving applause. Then the "dwarf" resurrects and both "carry that tandem (role) together": Faul with his voice James Paul with his left songs . Please notice that the "dwarf" is on the Sgt. Pepper cover too.
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Post by MotherNaureSon on Oct 1, 2003 10:33:44 GMT
More or less what I thought.
In a way, Paul is a dwarf compared with Faul.
Do you think that the fact that they put that scene in between the bus sing-along is an alegory that everything happened while the audience and fans were happy and didn't notice anything?
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Post by JoJo on Oct 12, 2003 16:06:03 GMT
I have a question about Mystery Tour, specificly about the "I Am the Walrus" video. I address this to Sun king mostly, because he has done so much work on capturing frames from that movie. I'm refering to this of course: xoomer.virgilio.it/james_paul_mccartney/mmt_s_f_s.htmlDuring the last minute or less of Walrus, in the upper left hand corner over a cloud, a scene pops up of flames at first, then people chewing, fading to other people's faces etc. Has anyone seen anything odd by going through that scene frame by frame? I think maybe yes and maybe no. The flames are too obvious, I mean things that could be taken either way, like a half face beside the face in the foreground for example.
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 13, 2003 3:08:23 GMT
Just a thought..........
Perhaps the bus with all the people is pictoral allegory: "The fans are all being taken for a ride! And one that they are immensely enjoying!" In America, "being taken for a ride" means being "conned" or being deceived. "Confidence artists" will swindle old ladies out of a fortune by an ongoing ruse. The naive party continues to pony up lots of cash until they are broke, or the ruse wears thin or becomes transparent.
I bow to Sun King's expertise and experience,and I am not questioning your knowledge. You are the man! But, could it be that the dwarf on the beach is in a way, Brian Epstein? New Paul and the dwarf are standing together in one shot on the sand (pointing up the reversed height difference in the replacements as compared to the originals) and then in a later frame,the dwarf is lying down like a corpse, showing new Brian's death. Kinda representing the order od things when the replacements were made. Symbolic. Just a flash I had; I might be off target again. Does this notion have any plausibility?
Also, bicycles have a sinister side in some dream analysis. Like clowns. Just some thoughts.
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 13, 2003 12:59:10 GMT
Magical Mystery Tour is a riddle hidden inside an enigma. It was whittled down to a one hour version, but in actuality they shot over 40 HOURS of raw footage! We could take the rest of our lives going over all that! I like the photo in the album booklet of "Paul" sitting at the army recruitment desk, with Victor Spinetti standing next to him. A sign on the desk directly in front of Paul clearly says, "I WAS" Magical Mystery Tour was so influential in later years, that film schools and cinematographers STUDIED the film in college! One such student heavily influenced by MMT was a guy named...STEVEN SPIELBERG. ;D
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 13, 2003 21:39:34 GMT
I had no idea. Where have I been?
I am renting MMT tomorrow! I only know of one rental place in my town that has it. It's a pretty big town too. Isn't that lame?
I just got hip to the Spielberg/ Kubrick connection a la "AI." Seems they had a great friendship and mutual admiration at one point............ What a transtioin from ET, Close Encounters to AI and etc. Spielberg has a tremendous cinematic vocabulary; Kubrick seems to be the one with the heavy ideas..........
I sit here, thru with work, listening to "Band on the Run" for the first time in years. Well, I feel a certain disconnect from the Beatles in this. I am trying to hear a connection to Paul as a composer and singer...........The rear of the album has what I guess is a mock-up of a intelligence dossier on the Wings Band. The theme continues................Where IS the voice from "Rubber Souls"? I guess we know.
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Post by Imgonnaopenmymind on Oct 13, 2003 21:47:51 GMT
Faul is performing a garbled version of the Catholic last rites over the dwarf, so...if the dwarf symbolizes James Paul, that is...it could be Paul's funeral with "Rev. Faul" delivering the eulogy (?)
Openmind
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Post by JoJo on Oct 13, 2003 22:01:41 GMT
As long as we're on the subject of MMT, check out near the end when John and George get off the bus and sit down for a performance by a band. The band plays various wind instuments, sorry I'm not much of an expert here. Anyway one of the group sorta looks like John, but the weird thing is the lead singer! He has blond hair and a mustache and I guess it's more about the *type* of singer he is, like you'd see in a really sleazy bar, no talent and trying real hard in this case to sing like Elvis. The only thing that saves him is that he has a "gimmick", he introduces a woman that *ahem* shakes her stuff, and gets topless, with the all male audience yelling and cat calling. At the end he bends down for a minute, then when we see his face, he has huge false teeth!! Then the curtain goes down. What drove me crazy is the bass drum, there is something written on it, and even with the DVD version, it's impossible to make it out. I would say this frontman is a Faul reference to make a wild guess here!
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 13, 2003 22:12:16 GMT
Spielberg/ Kubrick connection
Kubrick tended to *expose* Illuminati plans in his films and I tend to think he had finally pushed the envelope too far in Eyes Wide Shut -- and he conveniently died fbefore the final edit was done.
Spielberg, OTOH, is a Bilderberger, and I think his films serve the Illuminati agenda rather than, ahem, illuminate it.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 13, 2003 22:23:42 GMT
Well this you just have to see, what the heck.. The lead singer from the scene I mentioned above with three of the band members. (total of 6 with the singer) Notice the guy on the right kinda looks like John: And, after he puts in the big fake teeth, kinda scary!
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 14, 2003 3:08:02 GMT
That's the oh-so-wonderful & wacky Vivian Stanshall & The Bonzo Dog Band. Anybody who likes "comedy music" should check-em out!
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 14, 2003 12:03:34 GMT
Alas, please note that SPIELBERG has clearly aligned with the Illuminati/shadow government/NWO side.
He is and has been for decades working on behalf of these jerks to produce dogma designed to sway common belief systems and social standards.
He was working for the GOVERNMENT thru NASA and made both 'ET' and 'CLOSE ENCOUNTERS' at their request. Designed to slowly prepare the masses for the truth concerning extraterrestrial life.
Ominously, notice how 'ET' in particular is now a Christmas Eve standard broadcast on the networks. THINK IT THROUGH: Night of "Christ's" birth; showing the cute, sweet, cartoonish little alien... it's called "conditioning" folks...
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 14, 2003 22:13:20 GMT
Does anyone know?:
I have a dim memory of seeing a biography about Kubrick where they were discussing AI. Something about how Kubrick and Spielberg had been communicating via faxes for many months about it, and Kubrick felt that Spielberg was the man to make the film from his (Kubrick's) concept. Kubrick was getting old and slowing down: he didn't think he could pull it off. Kubrick had been the innovator in 2001: A Space Odyssey, now he thought Spielberg was the strong and logical successor. Anyway, Kubrick became disenchanted and estranged and angry: SPielberg supposedly wasn't following thru rught....I am lost memory wise here. I think it was on A&E or b one of thoses cable nets. Anyone recall?
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Post by Darkhorse on Oct 15, 2003 1:02:04 GMT
RE: JoJo's post, "Death cab for cutie"
Sorry, I had to say that.
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Post by PaulBearer on Oct 15, 2003 11:46:53 GMT
And what about that rumour that Kubrick was repsonbile for the sets of the staged moon landings!
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Post by TotalInformation on Oct 15, 2003 12:12:20 GMT
Yeah, that's a widespread rumor, but I don't know that I buy it. I tend to think that if NASA got any help from Hollywood, it was probably from people at Disney. Could be, though, could be.
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Post by IanSingleton777 on Oct 15, 2003 12:56:37 GMT
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