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Post by LUCY on Feb 3, 2007 4:37:09 GMT
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Post by cranberrysauce on Feb 3, 2007 21:24:16 GMT
No where in "Strawberries Fields Forever" is there anyone saying 'I buried Paul'. Hear what you want to hear and believe what you want to believe.
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Post by LUCY on Feb 4, 2007 3:28:51 GMT
@ about 2:26 I hear "I buried Paul.....Cranberry sauce" .......do you?
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Post by magentarain on Feb 4, 2007 3:44:42 GMT
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Post by cranberrysauce on Feb 4, 2007 14:43:36 GMT
Sorry Lucy, but I just don't hear it. It is cranberry sauce.
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Post by LUCY on Feb 4, 2007 23:42:22 GMT
Sorry Lucy, but I just don't hear it. It is cranberry sauce. He says two phrases twice, not identical. ....the second phrase a theatrical "cranberry sauce" Listen again........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61SQMQStK-o&NR ...after 2:25........the first VERY " I buried Paul"....I hear two disinct sentences in the isolated drum solo.......
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 5, 2007 0:55:41 GMT
No need CranberryTroll, most people are aware that a) it doesn't sound anything like "cranberry sauce" and b) they have changed their stories so many times and given so many conflicting answers that it can't possibly be innocent.
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Post by magentarain on Feb 5, 2007 23:15:30 GMT
i just tryd a bit with audiacity(soundprogramm forfree) an take the song an just take the end ith that crannberry sauce / iburied paul stuff. first i take away on part of the sterosound, because it is just on one. so much noise is away. then i made it louder with some effekts and then you here very clear waht he said and it is : *drums* CRANNBERRY SAUCE...eben if i want to her i burid paul it isn't there. sorry guys. you can hera cleary first a hard sound (the c) then the R he rolls it really and the S from sauceand ther is no such rolling r or s sound in i buried paul, in thi sentenc isnt any s.. ok that berry sounds like buried but speakit to you self it normally sounds much the same. but its crannyberry sauce. even if the crannberry isnt clear enough for some people, in the end you hear sauce not paul...sorry if somebody still says its i buried paul i won't belive. ( i save my cut out wich is just made louder no manipulation, so if any one is intrested send me PM.)
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Post by cranberrysauce on Feb 6, 2007 1:29:03 GMT
No need CranberryTroll, most people are aware that a) it doesn't sound anything like "cranberry sauce" and b) they have changed their stories so many times and given so many conflicting answers that it can't possibly be innocent. If you would only open your ears without any prejudice you will only hear 'cranberry sauce'. Dead subject, let's move on. And another thing I guess you call all people who don't believe the way you do "trolls". Such a pity! I once believed that Paul died, but after looking at some of the recent posts I'm not so sure. Come up with some undeniable proof and I will believe again.
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 6, 2007 2:03:34 GMT
There is undeniable evidence but you can't call it proof. I chose to call u a troll because I felt you were denying something irrefutable. I don't want to offend as I welcome everyones thoughts and opinions however, "cranberry sauce" is without doubt a Beatles "in joke", i'm not saying it says PID but it certainly doesn't say your nom de plume.
I must ask you though, I know that you're a sceptic, but do you believe that PID has any credence? If the answer is "no" then why are you posting here? If the answer is yes, then we will only win you over!
Cheers bud!
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Post by jude on Mar 10, 2007 9:19:54 GMT
Hi. I've been lurking around here a long time, and I always hesitated the post because I had nothing to share with everyone. But today, I break my silence, if only for the sake of telling you off, Plastic Paul.
Listen to the damn video. John said cranberry sauce. I suppose whether he said "I buried Paul" on one take or the other is up debate, but if you listen to these early takes, he's CLEARLY SAYING CRANBERRY SAUCE. Stop being so rude! So someone is a "troll", sent to discourage you in your faith in PiD simply because he/she hears something different? Give me a break!
I've been a visitor of The King is Naked since 2003, and I've seen some ugly things, but this, Plastic Paul, is just ignorance. As much as I'd like to believe he's saying "I buried Paul", he's actually not!
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 10, 2007 12:27:00 GMT
Marvellous first post.
Welcome Jude.
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Post by wld_life on Mar 10, 2007 16:44:16 GMT
Hi. I've been lurking around here a long time, and I always hesitated the post because I had nothing to share with everyone. But today, I break my silence, if only for the sake of telling you off, Plastic Paul. Listen to the damn video. John said cranberry sauce. I suppose whether he said "I buried Paul" on one take or the other is up debate, but if you listen to these early takes, he's CLEARLY SAYING CRANBERRY SAUCE. Stop being so rude! So someone is a "troll", sent to discourage you in your faith in PiD simply because he/she hears something different? Give me a break! I've been a visitor of The King is Naked since 2003, and I've seen some ugly things, but this, Plastic Paul, is just ignorance. As much as I'd like to believe he's saying "I buried Paul", he's actually not! Sorry for "butting in" but I am afraid that you are so terrible mistaken. You and the other skeptics have failed to mention the possibility of different mixes, not to mention original sound sources such as LPs. Even if it always was "Cranberry sauce" (and it wasn't) it can still be argued that it was meant to sound like "I buried Paul". If you can't admit that you at least hear the word "I" in the full mix than there is little point in debating this issue with you. For you to make such a definitive statement you would have to go back to the original releases in the original medium they were intended for. Perhaps that is why Plastic Paul felt that your buddy was a troll.
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Post by wld_life on Mar 10, 2007 16:45:31 GMT
No need CranberryTroll, most people are aware that a) it doesn't sound anything like "cranberry sauce" and b) they have changed their stories so many times and given so many conflicting answers that it can't possibly be innocent. If you would only open your ears without any prejudice you will only hear 'cranberry sauce'. Dead subject, let's move on. And another thing I guess you call all people who don't believe the way you do "trolls". Such a pity! I once believed that Paul died, but after looking at some of the recent posts I'm not so sure. Come up with some undeniable proof and I will believe again. I must ask you, 'Sauce, what are your sources ?
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Post by jude on Mar 10, 2007 20:59:06 GMT
Just....watch......the video! Or rather, part three of the video <i>series</i>. Or listen to audio capture I made here: www.megaupload.com/?d=TCY9ELI3Its the elephant in the living room that no one is noticing. And even when you do watch the video, fool, plastic paul, and everyone else who doesn't believe---you'll say the audio was faked somehow. I may be a lot of things, but I'm certainly no troll----I used to believe he was saying "I buried Paul". And, true, the end result may have been manipulated to sound like "I buried Paul". But millions of people hear "cranberry sauce", John once said in a radio interview that it was "cranberry sauce", and if you listen to how he said it in these early recordings, it is indeed exactly the way he said it in the radio interview. Paul is dead, he was replaced, there is evidence of photographical tampering....it's all great stuff, and I've come to relish every bit of it as I journey towards the truth, but this particular thing is something I've let go of because the answer is now right in front of us.
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Post by wld_life on Mar 11, 2007 2:53:40 GMT
No need CranberryTroll, most people are aware that a) it doesn't sound anything like "cranberry sauce" and b) they have changed their stories so many times and given so many conflicting answers that it can't possibly be innocent. If you would only open your ears without any prejudice you will only hear 'cranberry sauce'. "Dead subject, let's move on." And another thing I guess you call all people who don't believe the way you do "trolls". Such a pity! I once believed that Paul died, but after looking at some of the recent posts I'm not so sure. Come up with some undeniable proof and I will believe again. I really resent someone coming here and telling me that "there's nothing here folks, move on". I know classically trained musicians who hear "I Buried Paul" so whether or not John said "Cranberry Sauce" is irrelevant. It just gives him Plausable deniability. What most people have perceived over the year is what matters. If you no longer believe in the story, than why do you bother to come here?
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Post by wld_life on Mar 11, 2007 3:19:03 GMT
Just....watch......the video! Or rather, part three of the video <i>series</i>. Or listen to audio capture I made here: www.megaupload.com/?d=TCY9ELI3Its the elephant in the living room that no one is noticing. And even when you do watch the video, fool, plastic paul, and everyone else who doesn't believe---you'll say the audio was faked somehow. I may be a lot of things, but I'm certainly no troll----I used to believe he was saying "I buried Paul". And, true, the end result may have been manipulated to sound like "I buried Paul". But millions of people hear "cranberry sauce", John once said in a radio interview that it was "cranberry sauce", and if you listen to how he said it in these early recordings, it is indeed exactly the way he said it in the radio interview. Paul is dead, he was replaced, there is evidence of photographical tampering....it's all great stuff, and I've come to relish every bit of it as I journey towards the truth, but this particular thing is something I've let go of because the answer is now right in front of us. BTW, Welcome, Jude. The link didn't work for me but it's ok because I have heard it. I am glad that you are determined to find the Truth and it's Healthy to have someone keeping us all in check from time-to -time. That being said, I ask you to consider your own words in your reply to me: "... And, true, the end result may have been manipulated to sound like " I buried Paul...". You at least recognize that even if later mixes were not tampered with and it was always "Cranberry Sauce", that the aural effect in the mixes left people with the impression that John was saying "I buried Paul", or even "I'm very bored" (which is a lot more plausable to me than "cranberry sauce"). And that it was the intended affect. I appreciate how you are approaching the clues. I get very upset when I hear ridiculous "clues", particularly some of the audio reversals tha have cropped up recently, and I feel some of them are lies to debunk the rest of the good, solid clues. Incidently. Lennon did say that there weren't any clues, so if you are going to believe everything he said, then this entire forum project is a waste of time, 'innit?
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 11, 2007 3:22:09 GMT
Thanks for the support fool.
That doesn't sound right does it!!!!
Cheers anyway matey.
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Post by wld_life on Mar 11, 2007 3:38:44 GMT
"... most people are aware that a) it doesn't sound anything like "cranberry sauce" and b) they have changed their stories so many times and given so many conflicting answers that it can't possibly be innocent." Glad to assist. I quoted you above because you concisely summed it up the best. I have read you over the past few years and know that you are often the first one to question the validity of new (and some old) clues. Cheers!
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Post by jude on Mar 11, 2007 21:52:37 GMT
Fool, I appreciate your open-mindedness, but this forum isn't just for people who believe Paul is 100% dead, but for those who want to know the truth. Now, for the most part, I do believe that Paul McCartney died and was replaced by another man. And I know classically trained musicians have heard "I buried Paul", and I know the end result could have been manipulated. But all I was saying to begin with is that in the original recordings (and yes, in the final, to be honest) it was "cranberry sauce". That's so undeniably John that I can't believe some people refuse to believe that's he said. I know what it sounds like, and it's very possible that that was the intention.....but if you watch the YouTube video linked to at the start of this thread, you'll John, clear as day, saying "cranberry sauce". I mean, there's all levels of skullduggery....stuff that goes on in post-production, for instance. In both versions of Let It Be, for instance, there's a whisper in the song that sounds like "Paul is dead". That easily could have been slipped in by Bill in post-production, but Strawberry Field's vocals were recorded in a number of takes,many of the ones which are available for us to hear having the "cranberry sauce" at the end. Only two takes were spliced together, but for some reason I can't picture John saying "I buried Paul" in any of them as he would have had to say it in front of the sound engineer, George Martin, etc. John may have been the kind of sneak to put all sorts of crazy things into Revolution 9, but Strawberry Fields was a single, and it would have been very risky to actually say "I buried Paul". Were there evidence that this was something inserted into post-production, I'd believe it, but all the evidence there is says otherwise....what they recorded is what they recorded, as far as we know. Edit: Never mind, he's saying "I buried cranberry sauce". I kid, I kid.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Mar 12, 2007 9:26:40 GMT
Lennon did say that there weren't any clues, so if you are going to believe everything he said, then this entire forum project is a waste of time, 'innit? The TRUTH is exactly the contrary I buried Paul Cranberry Sauce I Am Very Tall It's not so important NOW as Paul was dead as Paul
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Post by Paul Bearer on Mar 13, 2007 3:26:59 GMT
The original release had "I buried Paul". Later releases changed this to "I buried sauce". By the time it got to anthology, it may have been changed completely to "Cranberry sauce", I don't know, I haven't researched it. Someone said it sounds like "CLAN bury source" which might point to the KKK theory. Then someone posted that the recordings that actually contain the forbidden words are actually a bootleg that was mocked up for PID buffs. Pity those poor fans with first edition releases who are now being told they have a fradulent copy! Maybe Paul was CRAMMED and BURIED in SAUCE.
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Post by jude on Mar 13, 2007 7:32:28 GMT
The original release had "I buried Paul". Later releases changed this to "I buried sauce". By the time it got to anthology, it may have been changed completely to "Cranberry sauce", I don't know, I haven't researched it. But how do you know that? I'm not saying it was below John to say something like that at the end of the song, but why would he say that at the end of a song that so personal to him? He was singing about his childhood memories playing with the kids at the Strawberry Fields orphanage in Liverpool. To me, it makes perfect sense that he'd say something so silly and childish, something random that only John could think of----"Cranberry sauce". Paul Bearer, I have a lot of respect for you and your cause. You've done your best in regards to Paul is Dead research, yet as you said before you left, we shouldn't let our heads get too wrapped up in all this that all we think are dark, dreary thoughts. And with all due respect..... ....isn't that a tiny bit absurd? You're talking insane levels of conspiracy here. I can't imagine John saying something as strange as CLAN berry sauce, and then everyone else in the room going "ha ha, good joke", "wink, wink, nudge, nudge". Well, if there is a copy of the song that has "I buried Paul", I'd really like to hear it. Whether it was mocked up or not all depends on if it was really John's voice. There are some fantastic Paul McCartney immitators out there (looking at you William Sheppard), but I think very few people can immitate John's unique voice, so I'd love to look into this if I could get my hands on this "bootleg".
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Post by jude on Mar 14, 2007 19:21:25 GMT
www.geocities.com/botvghlegends/SFF.wavThere! That's a rip from the Magical Mystery Tour CD (if I had the original LP, I would have used that), with as much of the instrumentation removed as possible, for maximum legibility. The "cr" in "cranberry" and the "s" sound at the end of "sauce" are especially noticable. Now, whether the original version said "I buried Paul" or not, I can't say, but I think Plastic Paul at least could apologize to cranberrysauce for shooting him/her down for saying otherwise. You can still hear "I buried Paul" if you're trying to; I can still hear it, but I have to ignore the very obvious "cr" sound at the beginning of the phrase to hear "buried Paul". I know it doesn't look too good, my first posts being in this subject, and all about debunking "I buried Paul", but really, I am and have for a very long time been a believer that Paul is dead. As soon as I get the chance, I have what I think are some pretty interesting topics I'd like to start on the subject of song clues in particular.
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 15, 2007 8:13:26 GMT
They may have done 30 takes, I don't know which ones do and don't say "I buried Paul", but at least one of them does and as long as that one exists, then it's a clue IMO.
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