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Post by bxv on Sept 15, 2005 5:06:15 GMT
Operation Eliminate PMC contd... Are you saying that top guy and bottom guy are "Paul"? Did he have a nose and chin transplant and have a couple of inches added to his head? My argument is based on the fact that all of the photos have been doctored or are complete photograpic fabrications - with the exception of a few. Some must have slipped the net. I dont "have an argument" as such. I'm just trying to point out that it appears that nearly all of the photos are either forgeries, for whatever reason, or have been heavily altered. Paul was "hot property" in the media. How much would a photo of Paul out on the town have fetched at a newspaper or magazine, for instance? Here is one of the "Jane Asher" photos.  BTW I was speaking to a guy today who "saw the Beatles" in Belfast, Ireland in 1963. I brought him here. He is flabbergasted.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 15, 2005 9:17:48 GMT
Ah... it's about Paul's true teeth? Old members ALREADY know about but... James Paul McCartney wore a partial denture to improve his teeth look. That's all.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Sept 15, 2005 9:25:10 GMT
Operation Eliminate PMC contd... Are you saying that top guy and bottom guy are "Paul"? Did he have a nose and chin transplant and have a couple of inches added to his head? My argument is based on the fact that all of the photos have been doctored or are complete photograpic fabrications - with the exception of a few. Some must have slipped the net. I dont "have an argument" as such. I'm just trying to point out that it appears that nearly all of the photos are either forgeries, for whatever reason, or have been heavily altered. Paul was "hot property" in the media. How much would a photo of Paul out on the town have fetched at a newspaper or magazine, for instance? Here is one of the "Jane Asher" photos.  BTW I was speaking to a guy today who "saw the Beatles" in Belfast, Ireland in 1963. I brought him here. He is flabbergasted. This is the reference for we all, bxv. I am starting to understand who really you are.... 
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 15, 2005 11:00:12 GMT
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 14:08:29 GMT
So you knew him personally? What you have there is another vintage FAKE. You're failing to show that there. I'm not sure how you can assert facial symmetry at that angle. A face is a 3D object, you can't just draw a razor-straight line thru it, no matter what the face angle, and make any sort of conclusion. Off the cuff though I don't see any discrepancies. Only one shows teeth, and they're the same. Being partially hidden by the lips makes them look more Faul-like in proportion...interesting. The eyes? He's focusing on the camera there, as that's a posed photo. In the "debunked" photo defhermit already explained that. That photo was taken at a publicity scene, it's a candid shot, lots of people there. His eyes are focused past the camera, maybe at a diferent camera. Cheeks? In the "debunked" photo the lighting is from flash, from the front, washing out the cheek lines, flattening the face. In your photos the lighting is from above, emphasizing those lines, thereby emphasizing the roundness. He doesn't look like Faul. He looks like that.
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Post by bxv on Sept 15, 2005 14:08:51 GMT
This is the reference for we all, bxv.
I am starting to understand who really you are....  ?  FAKE.
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 14:13:11 GMT
Here is one of the "Jane Asher" photos.  That "doctoring" line extends across to Jane's face too. More likely it's just a scanning glitch, whoever scanned it probaly didn't descreen. Jpeg compression takes care of the rest.
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 14:18:03 GMT
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Post by bxv on Sept 15, 2005 14:49:01 GMT
What, you joined to troll my posts? I must be annoying somebody good! The name of the thread is photo analysis. The subject of my posts are photo analysis. If you disagree with my analyses, well thats your perogative. The Real PMC NOT!  Scan lines, jpeg compression.....what next? Please refrain from giving me orders. I wont look at any links you post so dont waste your time. Oh hang on this must be PMC  or this is PMC  How about this clown? He PMC?  and this PMC  Then there is this PMC  and this PMC 
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Post by bxv on Sept 15, 2005 15:26:18 GMT
Whats wrong with this picture?? 
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 15, 2005 15:39:11 GMT
I don't know. Reveal it.
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Post by bxv on Sept 15, 2005 15:40:06 GMT
Look again tpi, it isnt even the Beatles.    "Paul" has been heavily disguised, not so many girls looked at George, they didnt bother. Johns a good lookalike, and it aint Ringo by a long shot,
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 15:58:00 GMT
What, you joined to troll my posts? I must be annoying somebody good! I'm just posting here to to analyze your assertions. I signed up, and you happened to have a thread going. It's just a coincidence. btw, A troll ignores what they can't answer, which you've done in spades. I do, and am also explaining WHY I do. Don't forget scans that were done without a descreen filter.
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 16:00:37 GMT
Blowing up a thumbnail to emphasize the jpeg texture reveals absolutely nothing.
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Post by bxv on Sept 15, 2005 17:01:50 GMT
 Using the neural network processing unit inside your head study this half photo!! Not a command, a request. Yes, there are compression artefacts present. A hint to overcome that is to squint hard at the photo. Now tell me who it is!!
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 15, 2005 17:45:43 GMT
The true Paul McCartney.
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Post by defhermit on Sept 15, 2005 18:05:49 GMT
faces aren't symmetrical... I'm going to keep saying that until bxv replies....
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 15, 2005 18:15:31 GMT
So true.
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Post by bxv on Sept 15, 2005 19:16:36 GMT
I absolutely agree that faces arent symmetrical - it avererages out at about PHI (the Golden Mean or Golden Ratio) which is about 0.168 divergence. Asymmetry is not responsible for the deliberate obfuscations that are apparent. The faking and the forgeries. Billy1? Billy2? Multiple Faul Characters, doubles, stand-ins. etc etc. Album covers in the US and UK have got different Pauls on. Someone has gone to a lot of hard work to eliminate Paul from history. Why? WTF happened? Thats all I want to know. That Illuminati/British Intelligence arsewipe sitting in his castle with all his millions is a charlatan and deserves to be exposed. I thought I could contribute to this forum by offering my opinion on the numerous obvious fakes which purport ot be PMC which are present on this site. Obviously you lot dont want to hear about that, you all have your own precious Paul paradigms. I simply am pointing out the photos I belive to be fake. Can we agree that this is Paul? www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/rams/beatlesshout.ram I dont see too much asymmetry.
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 15, 2005 20:13:58 GMT
I absolutely agree that faces arent symmetrical - it avererages out at about PHI (the Golden Mean or Golden Ratio) which is about 0.168 divergence. Asymmetry is not responsible for the deliberate obfuscations that are apparent. The faking and the forgeries. Billy1? Billy2? Multiple Faul Characters, doubles, stand-ins. etc etc. Album covers in the US and UK have got different Pauls on. Someone has gone to a lot of hard work to eliminate Paul from history. Why? WTF happened? Thats all I want to know. That Illuminati/British Intelligence arsewipe sitting in his castle with all his millions is a charlatan and deserves to be exposed. I thought I could contribute to this forum by offering my opinion on the numerous obvious fakes which purport ot be PMC which are present on this site. Obviously you lot dont want to hear about that, you all have your own precious Paul paradigms. I simply am pointing out the photos I belive to be fake. Can we agree that this is Paul? www.bbc.co.uk/music/profiles/rams/beatlesshout.ram I dont see too much asymmetry. No, because, you see, mr.bxv, sir, all the Pauls we see represented are just SIMPLY.....TOO....TALL. Paul was relatively small. Small Paul. Tall? Not so much. Though he had Ringo beat in the height department. But then, sadly, who doesn't? But that's no skin off of Ringo's back. Gracious I hope not. Well, for what it's worth, here is a photograph that best serves my memory of Paul in 1064, though it is small and not easy to see:  I believe that he is standing right next to George. I won't get into a defense over that; it's my perception. I see musicians holding their instruments nearly every day, especially bass players and drummers. That violin bass is large in his hands, and mighty. The bass itself is not far from George's 12-string Rickenbacker in the above picture. Also:   I am resigned to the idea that I shall never find any corresponding close-ups. All such images have been confined to the highest rafters in the Tower of London, and held under permanent embargo. I don't think the Parliament knows about this at all, y'all. Only a queen could dictate this. And, believe me, I know the inner workings of queens.
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Post by TPIMaster on Sept 15, 2005 20:41:06 GMT
 Doctored?
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 15, 2005 20:45:49 GMT
 Doctored? To what end? Why Dr. billy?
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Post by weighe on Sept 15, 2005 22:25:27 GMT
 Doctored? Absolutely. The photo may have been tampered with too. 
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Post by defhermit on Sept 15, 2005 23:20:57 GMT
"I absolutely agree that faces arent symmetrical - it avererages out at about PHI (the Golden Mean or Golden Ratio) which is about 0.168 divergence. "
I don't know what you mean by that. I'm aware of what the golden ratio is but I've never seen it used on facial symmetry. Even though I'm not sure what you mean, I AM quite sure that it is a bunch of poppycock, like you are trying to overawe me with vocabulary to make me defer to your opinion on your fades...
your left-right comparison fades mean nothing. the only things I am responding to are individual posts and assertions made by you. I have no allegiances to other theories swaying me one way or the other. It's important to remain skeptical about EVERYTHING that is posted here in order to try to keep everyone on track.
Again, attempting to prove that old pics of Paul were doctored by showing differences on the left side of his face compared to his right mean NOTHING.
I AM interested in seeing more of this supposed proof of doctoring you keep talking about, but so far all I've seen is zoomed in JPEGS that make it look like some lines don't match up, when that is simply caused by the pixellation of the photo....
and don't think we don't appreciate your posts just because we don't agree with EVERYTHING in them... please continue...
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Sept 16, 2005 0:22:07 GMT
two interesting things: 1. goldennumber.net/face.htm Page about facial proportions and the golden ratio. 2. From that page:   Looks like the same facial assymetry, just less extreme!
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