James Paul / Faul height difference comparison

[BillyJones]

Actually, Paul looks in the 1st photo to be a smaller man than John was. In the Beautiful Dreamer photo, you can see that Faul looks to be a larger man than John!

Good choice for comparison!

Chris

[abbey]

I'm hoping this bumps this thread up. The two choices of photo comparisons by Beatle Paul are stunning !

Here are two more:





You can see in the 1st photo that Faul is taller & a larger man than George was.

The second photo, Paul doesn't seem to be bigger than George in any way !

Also, I don't think they even look like the same man !

[SunKing]

With those 45 rpm covers the discussion about the height difference (better the big difference in dimensions between James Paul McCartney and Faul) is definitely CLOSED.

[BeatlePaul]

SunKing said:

With those 45 rpm covers the discussion about the height difference (better the big difference in dimensions between James Paul McCartney and Faul) is definitely CLOSED.

The complete team

[gracemer]

Good work BP. Those photos really show the difference.

[abbey]

Power said:

Haven't you all heard - LSD can cause sudden growth surges! Yeah, that's the ticket.

If that's the case why didn't Ringo, Johnny, George grow? The other 3 took acid, too. The only with a change is height is Paul/Faul. Paul was a small man. Faul was bigger all the way around.

[BeatlePaul]

plastic said:

I've always felt that the colours are simply down to psychedellic reasons, (or is that the reason why we associate those colours with psychedellia ) i wouldnt suggest that because the suits are based on colony days british war uniform that bill was actually a 19th century war veteran

Also, SMA dont get me wrong you come up with a lot of damn good stuff and i could be seeing things differently but i feel this alpha beta male stuff that you have mentioned in a few posts is irrelevant (if he was a beta male why would he be such a "stud"? ), and IMO yes bill/faul is a taller, probably bigger built man but JPM wasnt slight, they were all roughly the same height, sometimes one or the other looks taller for reasons we dont know but anyway i digress!

Sister said:

plastic paul, they were NOT roughly the same height. They all LIED about their height. In the 1960's the average male was about 5ft. 11in. tall. So, they all OFFICIALLlY adopted that height. All except for Ritchie, who was just too short to do so.

In reality, John & George were most likely 5ft. 10in. tall. Paul was about 5ft. 8in. tall, & Ritchie was about 5ft. 6 in tall.

They ALL lied about their height. Paul the most because he truly disliked being small.

I feel that these photos illustrate Paul & Ritchie's true height. As you can see, there is only about an inch or two difference between them.




They paired Paul with Ritchie, & John with George because it just MADE MORE SENSE !

I believe that these photos illustrate how sleight of Bill Paul was:

[abbey]

Thank you, BP

[plastic paul]

I'll just confirm i do believe PID but i think too much emphasis is placed on all these threads about size etc. I understand that you're trying to show people proof that they are two different people but we already know that, we need to look for clues, like the work people are doing in the "ole toro/nat jackley" thread, just look at those recent developments, truly unbelievable

[abbey]

I was just responding to what you said, plastic paul. I know that there are a few people now concentrating on "clues".
Unfortunately, that ISN'T my forte.
So, I leave that part of it up to them

[plastic paul]

Cheers, SMA you are without doubt one of the greatest assets this forum has, and you do a lot of great work, but although i am a devout PID believer, i still have to question certain things, no matter who says it, its just in my nature, so im never being personal to anyone, keep up the good work, EVERYONE

[abbey]

Hear, hear !!!! < claps enthusiastically >
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[BeatlePaul]

Found in that archive under "THE CHASE BBC B&W Beatles (Ringo Starr, Paul McCartney, John Lennon) sc 06Sep2004:

www.shillpages.com/dw/story-1.shtml

the following picture:

[abbey]

Yep, he was short of stature but very BIG of heart ;D
Nice find, BP

[McGarrett-Five-0]

I meant to preview and hit post! Sorry! I was just going to say I notice on a lot of pictures they do have Bill sitting down. So sometimes they had enough sense to say " hey he's a lot taller then we are...have him sit down". Or it was just one of their other ways to just throw everybody off!

[defhermit]

BeatlePaul said:

...surely....

off topic I know, but does anyone disagree that the above fade TOTALLY proves that Mich Jagger got some kind of jawbone implants? It seems completely obvious to me.

[abbey]

Hey, maybe Mick broke a jaw or had one damaged in some type of accident. I wasn't a close observer of The Stones, even though I liked a lot of their songs.

As for Bill's height, yes he was MUCH taller than small Paul. They usually had him sit, slouch, whatever so it wasn't so noticeable......they hoped. But once in awhile the obvious would slip in .... on purpose? by accident? Who can say? One thing for sure, no one grows 4 inches in 4-6 months after they are 24!!!

[BeatlePaul]

An example about chin implants

From:
www.cosmeticsurgery.ca/Photo_Gallery11.htm

[defhermit]

BeatlePaul said:

An example about chin implants

From:
www.cosmeticsurgery.ca/Photo_Gallery11.htm

If you were responding to my post about Mick Jagger's jaw, I was talking about the sides of his jaw, not his chin. It's definitely something I can IMAGINE people wanting to get, as a "strong jawline" is a much-sought-after characteristic.

Look at his face, in the black and white pic, his cheekbones are slightly further out than his jawline, in the color picture you can see him grow about an inch of jaw so that it matches his cheekbones almost perfectly.
The following image (if it works, this is my first try with a pic) should show you what I mean.

[cavendish]

That's very possible.

[Moped]

Here's what happens when the camera is rotated back to being level:



The steps behind the Beatles provide a real nice series of comparison lines.

Props to PIA for the animation and slanted red line.

[ReallyReallyDead]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/noodlzforum/Magical Mystery Tour/MMT/hopping.avi

(copy and paste to address bar)

That's where the hopping thing is from

[abbey]

Moped,

Fantastic work! It really shows the difference in height. Bill towers over everyone!

The stairs do make an excellent comparison line, but thank you for the red line.....the one showing Bill as being the tallest of the group.

[gracemer]

John Lennon was 5'8" according to Robert Rosen who wrote "Nowhere Man." How does he know? Because he tried on John's clothes and they were a perfect fit. That means Paul's probably only 5'6" - 5'7. Here's the pertinent part of the Absolute Elsewhere interview, and the link to the entire interview: articles.absoluteelsewhere.net/Articles/robert_rosen_int.html

lj: When you talked about John’s compulsion with his weight and his fasting, you say that he was 5’ 8’’. For over 35 years, it’s been thought that he was 5’ 11’’.

RR: I don’t believe he was that tall. There has been controversy about exactly how tall he was. And 5’ 8’’ is an educated guess based on numerous things. I tried on some of his clothes and they fit. I’m 5’ 8’’ and they fit almost perfectly. It was a very eerie experience, putting his clothing on. I thought, “he must have been my height...I’m 5’ 8’’...”

lj: How did you happen to be putting on his clothes?

RR: It was part of the stuff that Fred was bringing over. The amount of stuff that he was bringing to my apartment was astonishing. Boxes were piled to the ceiling.

[abbey]

I'm sure John fudge on his true height. I think all the Beatles did. George was really the tallest at 5'11". John was more 5'10".

However, how and why did John have clothes fitting a man that was 5'8"? Who did Johnny know that was actually that size? Could someone have taken over that person's identity, home, closets, etc., and, being a bigger person, thrown out all the garments fitting a man 5'8"? Now who in the whole, wide world would fit that description to a "T" or better yet, a "P"? And it had to be someone Johnny loved very much.

Another note in that story was about Johnny dealing in the occult. Maybe he was trying to get in touch with his dead best friend. He took dozens of baths...washing away the guilt he felt.....smoke a little weed, meditate, cleanse the inside of your body by diet and fasting,
and maybe you could reach that special person.

The part of Johnny's jealousy towards Paul is hooey! #1 it wasn't Paul; and #2 Bill couldn't write a two line rhyme without "a little(?) help from his friends"--look at the McCartney album, only a couple songs are of any decent quality or maybe only one