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Post by Paulythene Paul on Aug 25, 2006 7:57:03 GMT
From John R Woodhouse's Brumbeat website we learn that "Nicky James with Denny Laine and the Diplomats" served in 1963 as "...opening act for The Beatles at The Plaza Ballroom at Old Hill" (in Birmingham, England). www.brumbeat.net/diplomat.htmEdit: In reviewing this thread, I see EZWizard already made this point in a posting midway down page 6. I think it is quite significant, because it would mean that John, George and Ringo would likely already have met Phil back in July of '63, just about three years before the tragedy of Paul's death. |
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Post by Paul Bearer on Aug 25, 2006 23:38:10 GMT
Perhaps some of them were "released" via Beatles or solo Faul.
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Aug 26, 2006 6:54:58 GMT
Perhaps some of them were "released" via Beatles or solo Faul. Yes, PaulBearer. I'm thinking in particular of, on the Run Devil Run album, the song "No Other Baby", originally recorded sometime in the late 1950s by a skiffle groupo called "The Vipers". It, like most of the work by Denny and the Diplomats was reported to be, is a blues number. And don't forget Wings (i.e. Denny & the Diplomats, Mach II)! Love is Strange, and so is this story, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Love Is Strange is an old Bo Diddley original (for details please see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Is_Strange ) made famous in 1957 by Mickey & Sylvia with their latin American rhythm section, redone by Wings for the 1971 lp Wild Life. I wouldn't be surprised if the original Denny & the Diplomats had performed either or both numbers. I'm not sure what songs recorded by The Beatles you might be thinking of. |
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Post by Sun King™ on Aug 28, 2006 17:52:13 GMT
I still can't explain why Phil is sometimes called Ralston and sometimes Ackril Both stage names? So... Freddy Williamson was the "father" both of Tara as Faux Ringo (well accepted by the other Beatles) and of Phil as Faux Paul (Faul) So Billy (Freedy's Son William) was the nickname of "any" replacement inside the Beatles. Both Tara and Phil and maybe all the rest.... About Phil age...... he looked as 10 years older than what said.... "Aspinall" was a "buffer joker" name..... "Ringo's" Boogaloo Bill 45rpm cover has a Frankeinstein Monster on... smoking a cigarette.... |
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Post by vegetableman on Aug 31, 2006 6:47:30 GMT
The video for 'Back Off Boogaloo ' is crazy!  . Check it out at youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpLFHUbinI4In the video he dances around with Frankenstein. In the end they open a box and look inside but we never get to see the contents. They look surprised by what they've found. They close the box and walk away. The secret remains. The lyrics: 'Go! Back off boogaloo, I said, back off boogaloo, I said, back off boogaloo, boo. Back of boogaloo, What d'yer think i'm gonna do? I got a flash right from the start. Wake up, meat head, Don't pretend that you are dead, Get yourself up off the cart. Get yourself together now And give me something tasty. Ev'rything you try to do, You know it sure sounds wasted. Back off boogaloo, I said, back off boogaloo. You think you're a groove, Standing there in your wallpaper shoes And your socks that match your eyes. Back off boogaloo, I said, back off boogaloo, Come on, back off boogaloo, boo. Get yourself together now And give me something tasty. Ev'rything you try to do, You know it sure sounds wasted. Back off boogaloo, What d'yer think i'm gonna do? I got a flash right from the start. Back off boogaloo, I said, back off boogaloo, Come on, back off boogaloo, boo. Back off boogaloo, I said, back off boogaloo, Come on, back off boogaloo, boo. Back, ba-ba-ba-back!' |
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Sept 1, 2006 1:30:07 GMT
I still can't explain why Phil is sometimes called Ralston and sometimes Ackril Both stage names? Ralston was a stage name. Ackrill (note two L's is correct, one L is not) is likely Phil's true last name. That's my impression from the evidence we've seen so far. Bev Bevan (eventual drummer for the Electric Light Orchestra) also pretended to be a Ralston, a pretend brother of Phil. Very early on, we see, Phil was used to pretending he was something other than what he truly was! Sun King, would you please point me to a thread where I may learn more about this "Freddy Williamson" person you have referred to? |
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 1, 2006 2:41:50 GMT
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Post by Sun King™ on Sept 1, 2006 17:33:44 GMT
I still can't explain why Phil is sometimes called Ralston and sometimes Ackril Both stage names?
Ralston was a stage name. Ackrill (note two L's is correct, one L is not) is likely Phil's true last name. That's my impression from the evidence we've seen so far.
Bev Bevan (eventual drummer for the Electric Light Orchestra) also pretended to be a Ralston, a pretend brother of Phil.
Very early on, we see, Phil was used to pretending he was something other than what he truly was!
Sun King, would you please point me to a thread where I may learn more about this "Freddy Williamson" person you have referred to? Thank You paulythenepaul! So what written in that page was a fake or better a mixed up between truth and lies.... Starting with Phil birthday's date. 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=document&action=display&thread=1144662812"Campbell (Ackrill) recalls. 'I was a studio musician that artists would call if they needed someone to play something or another. At the time, I had worked with George Martin before and he told me that he really enjoyed my work. Next time, he said, that he needed a favor, I'd be the first to know. I had no idea what that statement would lead to!'
Like the rumors have stated, Paul McCartney did indeed die in 1966. A fatal car crash tragically took the lives of Paul and a woman (who will not be named at this time)."That seems to match with that magazine sheet. About Freddy ..... 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=Essential&thread=1110116618&page=3See Neil Evans post.....[/size] |
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Sept 2, 2006 0:05:30 GMT
Thank You paulythenepaul! You're welcome, SunKing.  Yes, I believe everything in the newspaper article about Denny and the Diplomats is all truth except for the lies about the family names of Bev and Phil. I was surprised to see from that article that Phil was a year or so younger than the real James Paul McCartney, considering how aged Phaul looks nowadays (especially comparing him with Ringo who, as Howard Stern says, is now "the good looking Beatle"). However, I accept that Phil Ackrill was born on March 7th 1945, just like Midland Beat reports, and the advanced aged look of his face now in 2006 is due to the weakening of the skin and muscle tissues over time after his having had multiple plastic surgery operations. 60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=document&action=display&thread=1144662812SunKing, you seem to believe that the article put out by Reuters on April Fools Day has some credibility in it. I don't believe half of what comes from Reuters on any given day, let alone what they put out for April Fools Day. I'm sorry, but "'Paul McCartney' admits to being an imposter Saturday, 01 April 2006 By Markus Hernandez LONDON (Reuters)" is one story that holds no credibility whatsoever in my mind. Markus Hernandez, or whoever it was who wrote the story, Markus Hernandez is probably a fake name, wrote the entire thing as a joke and probably thought it very amusing because he probably thinks the idea of Paul McCartney having died in 1966 is hogwash. Personally I don't find the matter funny at all, and I wish the person who had written that article never would have done so. It was a hurtful thing to do to people like us who know for a fact that Paul was killed in '66, and replaced. I'm sure Hernandez or whoever wrote it didn't mean it to be hurtful, but it is hurtful nonetheless. [/size][/quote] That was very good, SunKing. Thanks. I had read that bit from Neil Evens before, but the name of the make-up artist he mentioned had slipped my mind. At the time I was new to TKIN and was absorbing so much information all at once it was hard to digest it all. |
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Post by Sun King™ on Sept 9, 2006 15:42:58 GMT
... and please SEE how SIMILIAR is Phil to Brian.... Faux Brian was THE FIRST Phil's role inside the Beatles starting with 1965 ... |
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Post by Sun King™ on Sept 14, 2006 20:17:07 GMT
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Sept 14, 2006 23:03:31 GMT
Phil-ly Shears!  I can see the resemblance, Sun King. However, that picture of Phaul looks like it was from around 1980. I'm wondering if you might have something closer to 1967 to put side by side with Phil. Anyhow, you inspired me. I went to google and did an image search with keywords Denny Diplomats and found a group shot that includes a three-quarter profile of Phil, showing that distinctive short-hook nose that Phaul has always had, but Paul never did:  Post Script: Note the dark hair colour of the lads in this picture. They hadn't gotten into the bleach bottles at this point in time yet. |
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Post by ezwizard on Sept 14, 2006 23:39:46 GMT
OK. I'll try one. How's this? Phil + Paul = Phaul   Sorry. My photoshop skills are "lacking". EZ |
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Post by JamesPaul & Brian on Sept 14, 2006 23:52:07 GMT
and Phil = fill  |
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Sept 15, 2006 1:49:49 GMT
OK. I'll try one. How's this? Phil + Paul = Phaul Sorry. My photoshop skills are "lacking". They are infinitely better than mine, EZWizard! Mine are non-existant! ;D Thank you for the very apt enlargement of Phil's face, and pairing of it with the photo of Phaul that seems to match at least chin to chin, and mouth to mouth in terms of proportion and, in the case of the chin, shape. The puffy lips in Phaul instead of thin ones like Phil has are easily explained away with plastic surgery. The gap between bottom of nose and top of mouth is different between the two, but that is, I guess, because of a nose job. It's strange that the plastic surgeon(s) didn't get rid of the hook in Phil's nose and make it straight like Paul's, but I guess they were afraid it would affect his ability to sing well. Barbra Streisand has promised never to get a nose job for that reason. The eyebrows seem to match very well. Is that Phaul photo from '67 or '68? I think Phaul had work done on his eyebrows to make one higher and "pointier" later than whenever this photo was taken. |
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Sept 18, 2006 2:33:38 GMT
If Phaul is Phil from Birmingham (as I'm fairly well convinced), then he'll not speak with a Scousers accent but a Brummy accent, no? Just like we heard at the Rock Show from "our dear old friend and confidante, Mademoiselle Kittay"! "... 'y' at the end of a word becomes 'ay'" (as copied from... www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A496352 ). |
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Post by ilras on Sept 19, 2006 0:46:21 GMT
Is there some way to check if Phil is still alive or not?
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Post by tkp66 on Sept 19, 2006 4:01:10 GMT
The song Two of us, is it on the Anthology someone says take it Phil or play it Phil ?
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Sept 19, 2006 5:17:59 GMT
Is there some way to check if Phil is still alive or not? I think what you mean to ask, ilras, is "What happened to Phil after he left The Diplomats?" Do you fancy a trip to Birmingham? Or are there some Brummy's here at TKIN who are willing to do some volunteer investigative work? |
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Post by Paulythene Paul on Sept 19, 2006 5:41:53 GMT
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Post by Maacc on Sept 19, 2006 20:57:38 GMT
Can anyone provide a brief summary of where we are to date with this thread. I just don't have time to get myself properly up to date with all the stuff on the forum.
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Post by ezwizard on Sept 19, 2006 21:17:46 GMT
Deadman, you are correct with the "Take it Phil" blurb at the end of Two of Us.
Unfortunately, I believe that Phaul said it...to John, supposedly in tribute of Phil Everly.
Ilras,
I've been looking for Mr. Ackrill for a long time. Guess how that search is going.
EZ
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Post by unrepentant on Sept 20, 2006 10:35:09 GMT
all this does is muddy the waters even MORE than they already have been.
who did phil ackrill replace? what makes you believe that it is phil now and not the PREVIOUS guy who replaced that person?
are you now claiming that people were being replaced in 1965?
if this plot gets any thicker we will need a jackhammer to chop through it.
simplicity! a straight line is the shortest distance between two points.
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Post by Sun King™ on Sept 20, 2006 18:56:24 GMT
Phil-ly Shears! I can see the resemblance, Sun King. However, that picture of Phaul looks like it was from around 1980. I'm wondering if you might have something closer to 1967 to put side by side with Phil. A wig, a nose lenght reduction two sclera contact lenses and filler injections.... ... it's easy.... All You Need Is .... |
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 20, 2006 21:54:43 GMT
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. Check it out at youtube:
;D 
