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Post by sinbad on Aug 6, 2005 0:51:22 GMT
My father has been a dentist for 50+ years, and is a contemporary of Doris Day. When I showed him the Doris/Foris photos, he unequivocally stated that the teeth are of two different women. Said he never would have believed it if he hadn't seen the evidence.  Amazing validation! Yes, the tooth front incisors of Doris are longer than the rest of the row of her teeth. They are all the same length with Foris. Doris  Foris  While you're at it notice how Foris' chin is rounded at the tip and Doris' is somewhat squared off. |
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Post by TheDZ on Aug 7, 2005 21:43:04 GMT
Yep the chin and the teeth were the details for me as well.
For me..
Doris=Foxy lady.
Foris=Stepford wife.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 8, 2005 10:48:20 GMT
My father has been a dentist for 50+ years, and is a contemporary of Doris Day. When I showed him the Doris/Foris photos, he unequivocally stated that the teeth are of two different women. Said he never would have believed it if he hadn't seen the evidence. Amazing validation! Yes, the tooth front incisors of Doris are longer than the rest of the row of her teeth. They are all the same length with Foris. Doris Foris While you're at it notice how Foris' chin is rounded at the tip and Doris' is somewhat squared off. Sorry BOTH are Doris's    THOSE ONES are about Foris. It's easy to tell about Doris and Foris. Foris just looks younger. |
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Post by sinbad on Aug 8, 2005 14:31:36 GMT
BP, the three you posted are all Foris. The bottom one I posted is Foris, but the top one is the real Doris!
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Post by defhermit on Aug 8, 2005 21:06:35 GMT
I'm not seeing these differences you guys speak of.
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Post by sinbad on Aug 8, 2005 23:46:25 GMT
I'm not seeing these differences you guys speak of. Well specifically I was talking about the teeth and the chin but there are more. Finding the differences between Doris and her double is certainly more challenging than finding the differences between Paul and Faul. Sometimes it hits you right away and sometimes it takes some time. |
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Post by defhermit on Aug 9, 2005 0:33:54 GMT
...or maybe it's just age...
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 9, 2005 9:09:35 GMT
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Post by BeatlePaul on Aug 9, 2005 9:10:13 GMT
...or maybe it's just age... Foris came out after Doris. |
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Post by sinbad on Aug 14, 2005 17:06:43 GMT
Someone recently made the statement that the way bank tellers are taught to identify counterfeit bills is to look at the real bills enough to know what they truly look like. So when a counterfeit comes along there is an alert in the brain...A-ha, a phony! The same principle applies with Paul. If you wanna know the difference between Paul and Faul, look at as many pictures of Paul from 1966 and before. Study his face and get to know it and eventually you will have little trouble telling Paul from Faul. In the case with Doris Day, this same principle applies, but in my opinion, it works in reverse. Whereas Paul has the more unique qualities over Faul(rounded head and face, eyes set wide, square chin) Foris has some rather distinguishing qualities such as a turned up nose, rounded cheeks and jawline, even length row of teeth, widow's peek on her hairline. Doris, although more attractive, was a little more plain Jane and had less characteristics that were unique or "stood out" imo. So if you wanna know the real Doris, study the facial attributes of Foris, get to know her face and you will know what she looks like and will be able to identify her. Then by process of elimination you will be able to identify the real Doris.  |
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Post by gracemer on Aug 15, 2005 6:37:21 GMT
If you've got pre-1967 photos you know it's Paul and you can study him. But what about Doris? What year was she replaced? So I can look at pre-whatever pictures to get familiar with the "genuine."
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Aug 15, 2005 17:07:07 GMT
Any chance we will get some Doris VS Fauris animated comparison thingys ? To do that, we need pics of Doris and Foris where they are looking directly into the camera. |
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Post by sinbad on Aug 16, 2005 0:30:52 GMT
If you've got pre-1967 photos you know it's Paul and you can study him. But what about Doris? What year was she replaced? So I can look at pre-whatever pictures to get familiar with the "genuine." Any picture from right around 1956 to today is Foris. The Man Who Knew Too Much was the last film that the real Doris Day made. Julie was Foris' first film. Keep in mind that Foris had some more plastic surgery done around 1958-59, right before Pillow Talk. It looks like most of the work was done to her nose but it's possible she had more done in other areas. The only way to really know the differences is to study the face of early Doris and late Doris(mid 50's on) until you start to recognize the differences. Like I stated in my earlier post, it will be easier to recogize the fake Doris once you know her face. |
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Post by sinbad on Aug 16, 2005 0:58:03 GMT
...look at these two pics. One is Doris and one is Foris: Doris  Foris  By looking at the two pics, you can see the obvious differences. Hardly looks like the same person huh? Notice the nostrils on Foris, see how they are larger or flare more when she smiles. The nose of Doris does not spread like that when she smiles. Doris also has a little cherry on the end of her nose.  And someone must have noticed the obvious differences in the noses and had Foris do the extra nose work in 1959. I'd say the above pic of Foris was taken in 1957. |
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Post by gracemer on Sept 1, 2005 6:48:43 GMT
I can really see the differences between those two pictures. Well, off to the video store. Didn't TotalInformation say something to the effect that Doris may have been carted off to the booby hatch (as opposed to dying)? I was reading something he posted somewhere. On his website I think. Know anything about that?
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Post by sinbad on Sept 4, 2005 17:08:30 GMT
...yes that's possible. She obviously disappeared during the mid 50's and eventually died later on. Who knows when but before Terry Melcher died he was living with the fake Doris, a sign that his real mom wasn't around.  |
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Post by gracemer on Sept 5, 2005 8:24:55 GMT
When Melcher died, Foris was reportedly devastated over his death. So much mystery surrounding that man.
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Post by sinbad on Sept 5, 2005 17:21:52 GMT
When Melcher died, Foris was reportedly devastated over his death. So much mystery surrounding that man. Yes and suppose if one were to dig deep into his past, his life story, there might be come clues into what happened to Doris. Regarding Foris/Eunice, I suspect she was probably lied to about the happenings of Doris and therefore agreed to play the part thinking she was doing a good deed. I couldn't imagine her agreeing to something like this knowing that Doris was locked up or killed. |
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 11, 2006 9:59:09 GMT
Those photos bother me too. I found another photo of Paul with his dad. But 1st, look at these photos :   Both of these appear to be from the same interview. This guy doesn't look like Paul or Faul ! And check this photo out. Faul's face looks discolored !  Onto the photo I found of Paul & Jim:  Also, I found another photo of Paul from the Revolver Sessions. He's wearing his PRESCRIPTION glasses !  THought I'd bring back this post. Good photos. |
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