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Post by sinbad on Dec 3, 2004 13:43:42 GMT
Please list the number and state who you think it is, Doris or Foris? 1.  2.  3.  4.  5.  6.  |
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Post by abbey on Dec 3, 2004 18:09:58 GMT
I honestly can't say for sure on all the photos. I can say one thing, though. You're showing photos of women with two different body types. The woman in the 1st photo is a structually larger woman, than the woman in the second photo.
The same way that Faul is just a structually bigger man, than Paul was !
Wow !
Here goes. This is just a guess, mind you. I believe that the woman in the 1st photo, the 4th photo & the 5th photo, is the true Doris Day.
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Post by gracemer on Dec 3, 2004 18:27:00 GMT
I was going through some photos last night and noticed that Doris was about the same height as Jimmy Cagney. Foris is supposed to be about 5'9", isn't she?
So my guess is that only No. 2 is Doris--or maybe none of them.
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Post by sinbad on Dec 3, 2004 18:44:02 GMT
Gracemer, you are correct with your one guess. It's not that hard, SMA and GM, just look at the face and it will come to you.  |
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Post by abbey on Dec 3, 2004 18:47:48 GMT
Shoot, I had it backwards ! So that means that #2 & the last photo are the TRUE Doris Day !
Doris was the petite one, just like Paul was the smaller man !
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Post by sinbad on Dec 3, 2004 19:57:32 GMT
And the "real" Doris Day was certainly more beautiful than the fake one. Just as many women agree Paul was "cuter" than Faul. |
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Post by abbey on Dec 3, 2004 20:51:53 GMT
I do believe you're right about Doris. I have to sit down & watch a few of her movies. I have my own way of describing the difference between Paul & Faul. Someone else said this awhile ago. I'm sure they won't mind me "borrowing" it for this occasion. Paul was like a diamond. He was a very deep , beautiful man. He shined. He might not have been perfect, but he WAS genuine. Bill is like a cubic zirconia. He might look more perfect on the surface, but he's MAN MADE ! There's no depth to that man at all ! |
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Post by TotalInformation on Dec 3, 2004 22:13:17 GMT
I guess:
2, 5, 6: Doris Kappelhoff (aka "Doris Day" 1941-56)
1, 3 ,4: "Eunice" (aka "Doris Day" 1956-present)
While I'm here, I guess I'll mention that Terry Melcher, Doris' son died recently. The latest Globe tabloid has a story about how Eunice is totally devestated and alone now, having a bit of a breakdown. I suspect Terry and Eunice may have been lovers...
Anyway, pic #2 is weird looking -- seems to have been filtered or what have you, and not well.
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Post by sinbad on Dec 4, 2004 1:38:55 GMT
I guess: 2, 5, 6: Doris Kappelhoff (aka "Doris Day" 1941-56) 1, 3 ,4: "Eunice" (aka "Doris Day" 1956-present) While I'm here, I guess I'll mention that Terry Melcher, Doris' son died recently. The latest Globe tabloid has a story about how Eunice is totally devestated and alone now, having a bit of a breakdown. I suspect Terry and Eunice may have been lovers... Anyway, pic #2 is weird looking -- seems to have been filtered or what have you, and not well. That's interesting about Melcher and Foris. It could be. Of course no-one would suspect those two because the thought of incestuousness is beyond most people's comprehension, at least for a mother and son. BTW Total, you got all of them correct! Can anyone get this one? It's tough. Doris or Foris?  |
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Post by Perplexed on Dec 4, 2004 6:56:31 GMT
Hybrid
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Post by BeatlePaul on Dec 4, 2004 11:57:11 GMT
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Post by sinbad on Dec 5, 2004 0:19:21 GMT
Could very well be. |
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Post by sinbad on Dec 5, 2004 0:22:23 GMT
Beatle Paul, #3 and #4 are Foris.  |
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Post by Palin on Dec 6, 2004 16:51:26 GMT
Can anyone tell me why the hell anyone would have wanted to replace Doris Day. If she died, what would be the problem in announcing it? I'm curious about this. It's not like she was/is important, and bigger stars than her died without causing much more than a blip on the radar. Similarly, if for some reason its thought she was "removed" why not just say she had an accident/illness etc?
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Post by abbey on Dec 6, 2004 17:41:43 GMT
Palin - that is a very valid question. I wish I knew the answer. All I know is that the top two photos that Sinbad posted are very powerful. It doesn't take a trained eye to see that they are indeed two different people. The woman in the 1st photo has a much larger bone structure than the woman in the second photo !
It's very obvious by the size of her waist, legs & feet, compared to that of the woman in the second photo !
Also the woman in the 1st photo has a longer & larger face, just like Faul does compared to Paul.
That is some coincidence .
Incredible !
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Post by beatled on Dec 6, 2004 17:43:54 GMT
The reason why would be that Doris was a hot commodity at the time, and so it may have been as cold blooded as that. Lots of lost sales, so why not? Having said that, I'll hold off on judging whether there was a Foris 'till I have a chance to watch some movies.. Which may take a while, but I promise I'll try Sinbad! |
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Post by SunKing on Dec 6, 2004 21:43:06 GMT
Can anyone tell me why the hell anyone would have wanted to replace Doris Day. If she died, what would be the problem in announcing it? I'm curious about this. It's not like she was/is important, and bigger stars than her died without causing much more than a blip on the radar. Similarly, if for some reason its thought she was "removed" why not just say she had an accident/illness etc? We all are too young to know. The same for the reason why Sylvie Vartan was replaced too. Who doesn't belong to the old Europe doesn't know HOW FAMOUS Sylvie was at that time. The same could be for Doris Day in USA. So Foris could have been a preexistent double not "built" for the occasion - ready to use. Better working with a famous name than with a unknown one... for the same people. ALWAYS. |
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Post by abbey on Dec 6, 2004 22:33:27 GMT
S.K., that is totally possible.
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Post by PaulBearer on Dec 7, 2004 4:55:02 GMT
The reason she was replaced? Money is always a big factor I think but maybe there was something ugly enough about her death that it was considered that it would be better if it was hushed up. However, I think one of the main reasons in this case is that it may have been one of their early experiments (maybe even the first) in celebrity replacements to see if they could pull it off and to see just how gullible the public were.
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Post by Palin on Dec 7, 2004 13:38:31 GMT
The reason she was replaced? Money is always a big factor I think but maybe there was something ugly enough about her death that it was considered that it would be better if it was hushed up. However, I think one of the main reasons in this case is that it may have been one of their early experiments (maybe even the first) in celebrity replacements to see if they could pull it off and to see just how gullible the public were. Your last reason is the most plausible one, but it begs the question, why adopt such a high risk strategy to assess the gullibility of the people. They already knew how gullible the public were since they had witnessed more or less entire generations being sacrificed in two world wars without good reason. As far as I can tell, the only reason that it is supposed Doris Day was replaced is because Lennon sings her name in Dig It, along with those of Matt Busby and BB King. Why does his mention of them in passing have to mean they were replaced? I've always found this one hard to accept. You just need to look at pictures of Matt Busby to see that he was the same person before and after the Munich air disaster. I money was a factor, then Doris's death would have proved a money spinner if handled properly - and anyway, there's always someone new waiting to grab fame/money and be exploited. She is/was of limited talent, but looked pretty. Millions more like her. I just can't see it, personally. |
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Post by PaulBearer on Dec 7, 2004 15:04:19 GMT
I simply haven't seen the before and after pictures of Matt Busby - it was longer ago than Paul. But don't forget the same program of photo doctoring may have been applied making it hard to tell.
BB King I know virtually nothing about and haven't delved into.
But Doris...definitely a different person to me. Doris is more broadly build and has a squarer face. Also, I personally feel that Doris is plainer than Foris - Foris's face is smaller I actually think Foris looks sexier but that's personal preference I know - maybe it was from being brought up on The Doris Day Show but...what happened to her singing/dancing career? She was into musicals in a big way and then suddenly...a string of movies with no more dancing and very little singing. I think she used to put out records in the 40s & 50s didn't she? - I think her record career stopped as well.
If she could still sing and dance then The Doris Day Show was a big waste of her talent.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Dec 7, 2004 19:48:21 GMT
I simply haven't seen the before and after pictures of Matt Busby - it was longer ago than Paul. But don't forget the same program of photo doctoring may have been applied making it hard to tell. BB King I know virtually nothing about and haven't delved into. But Doris...definitely a different person to me. Doris is more broadly build and has a squarer face. Also, I personally feel that Doris is plainer than Foris - Foris's face is smaller I actually think Foris looks sexier but that's personal preference I know - maybe it was from being brought up on The Doris Day Show but...what happened to her singing/dancing career? She was into musicals in a big way and then suddenly...a string of movies with no more dancing and very little singing. I think she used to put out records in the 40s & 50s didn't she? - I think her record career stopped as well. If she could still sing and dance then The Doris Day Show was a big waste of her talent.  ...here they are.... |
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Post by abbey on Dec 7, 2004 19:51:44 GMT
Incredible. It seems that what John said in "DigIt" wasn't random at all ! Look at the difference between the eyes, shape of the face & ears of the two men !
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Post by beldabeast on Dec 26, 2004 8:33:34 GMT
Here is my take .
Doris was replaced just to see if they could get away with it .
The mass media was in it's infancy and its use as a political tool had just been realized .
The real Doris ( WHAT a babe ! ) was chosen because she had the bad luck to be the one for which the most believable replacement had been found .
The unlucky victim could had easily have been Loretta Young or Jane Wyman or Claudette Colbert ( " This is HORRID , simply HORRID ! " )
As always , we want to keep in mind that in the day
the internet and video recorders for the masses were totally unthought of which means we could only view something when someone provided the opportunity .
The government also HAD SOMETHING on the industry to hang over their heads since they were complicit in the cover-ups .
This was about gaining control of the TV and radio and music and news and entertainment industry in general .
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Post by BeatlePaul on Dec 26, 2004 9:01:09 GMT
Here is my take . Doris was replaced just to see if they could get away with it . The mass media was in it's infancy and its use as a political tool had just been realized . The real Doris ( WHAT a babe ! ) was chosen because she had the bad luck to be the one for which the most believable replacement had been found . The unlucky victim could had easily have been Loretta Young or Jane Wyman or Claudette Colbert ( " This is HORRID , simply HORRID ! " ) As always , we want to keep in mind that in the day the internet and video recorders for the masses were totally unthought of which means we could only view something when someone provided the opportunity . The government also HAD SOMETHING on the industry to hang over their heads since they were complicit in the cover-ups . This was about gaining control of the TV and radio and music and news and entertainment industry in general . Excellent. Written by a bright mind. Please take note that when ONE starts getting famous.... so famous... too famous he starts to be a danger for "THE POWER" TOO... A "famous" people is "famous" because he/she has followers. As he/she gets more famous as he/she increases the number of his/her followers. Too many followers.... too much power. It's just a logic equation. "They" have learned that. Fixing a hole .... in "THE POWER" |
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