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Post by byrdsmaniac on Sept 16, 2003 0:28:41 GMT
It's a woman. (I cheated and looked at the actual album.)
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 16, 2003 4:45:57 GMT
eleanor rigby?
also, does anyone know where this picture was taken?
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Post by Scatterdome on Sept 16, 2003 4:48:09 GMT
Whoops- which album is that from? Is it a CD or Beatles photo "album?" For that last post, I guess that's the best I could come up with, with the information I had.  Since the statue turns out to be a woman, I must've left out a fourth possible interpretation-- the hat placements could symbolize John and Yoko! Or (#5), if it's "Eleanor Rigby," maybe it's another "Paul Is Dead" clue? I think that song was the song that Paul wrote and sang that is most directly about his upcoming "death." If that's the case, maybe that means it symbolizes "Lennon & McCartney," like my second interpretation. |
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 16, 2003 4:55:38 GMT
its the cover of the "hey jude/ the beatles again" album. what do you think about the other statue? the one without the hat?
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 16, 2003 5:03:56 GMT
OK, I'll hazard a few hopeless shot in the dark guesses as to the identity of the bust of the woman under the tall black hat.
(I'm glad this isn't Wheel of Fortune because I will NOT win the car, Vanna!)
1) Georges Sand (a female friend of Frederic Chopin's circa 1830's-40's) I think she was a poet or writer; she was one to hang out with artsy types in lavish settings.....
2) Eleanor Roosevelt (the condition of the piece looks like it must really be older than the last century, though)
3) An ancient Greek or Roman wife of a senator or ruler.....
4) Nancy Culp. Perhaps in her spare time away from her Jane Hathaway character on "The Beverly Hillbillies," Ms. Culp, and I do mean Ms. Culp, did free-lance bust posing as a hobby to get Hollywood out of her mind. She always prefered Shakespeare. (And did anyone ever really see Robert Culp and Nancy Culp in the same room together at the same time?.........hhmmmm)
5) Louisa Mae Alcott. I've never seen a picture of her. And you just never know.
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 16, 2003 5:04:58 GMT
The bust without the hat reminds me a little of Teddy Roosevelt. But that really makes no sense.........
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 16, 2003 5:24:46 GMT
maybe it is teddy and eleanor roosevelt
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Post by Scatterdome on Sept 16, 2003 5:39:47 GMT
Hmm- Teddy Roosevelt and "Eleanor Rigby!" Teddy Roosevelt actually WAS my first impression of the hatless statue. (Good call, #9.)
Maybe someone reading this stream could travel to the site, if that's the only way to find out. The Beatles were there, so they may have seen a plaque or something identifying them. Perhaps there is a clue that can be found by knowing who the statues are.
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Post by Scatterdome on Sept 16, 2003 6:03:42 GMT
Has anyone found anything more (besides the webpage I provided on my post about it) about the Band On The Run sessions in Lagos that might make or break my idea that Paul may have joined Faul, Linda & Denny Laine for the recording because the lead guitarist and drummer for Wings quit during the week before they were scheduled to fly out to record there? I hate to be a downer, but my hunch still leans towards the idea that if Paul did do that, it was the occasion that provided the Illuminati with the perfect situation to murder him, as elaborated in my last lengthy post (the one about martyrs).
And / or, in relation to the "Paul is STILL alive" idea posted by "Imgonnaopenmymind," maybe someone could find out more about "Philip MacGregor?"
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 16, 2003 6:04:33 GMT
yes, know if only we knew where the hell that place is! though those statues could just be props, and might have just been put there for the shot. they might not be there anymore
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 16, 2003 7:28:29 GMT
L & R Rig-B
L N R Rig B
L and R Rugby
Ellen R. Igby
L, N, or Ich bei.
sorry...............or perhaps backwards
B gir R N L
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Post by SunKing on Sept 16, 2003 9:59:46 GMT
Whoops- which album is that from? Is it a CD or Beatles photo "album?" For that last post, I guess that's the best I could come up with, with the information I had. Since the statue turns out to be a woman, I must've left out a fourth possible interpretation-- the hat placements could symbolize John and Yoko! Or (#5), if it's "Eleanor Rigby," maybe it's another "Paul Is Dead" clue? I think that song was the song that Paul wrote and sang that is most directly about his upcoming "death." If that's the case, maybe that means it symbolizes "Lennon & McCartney," like my second interpretation. I have a doubt: Scatterdome do you know THE WHOLE Beatles chronology and ALL the Beatles Albums? It's simply THE FAMOUS "Hey Jude" LP front cover.... |
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Post by Scatterdome on Sept 16, 2003 14:45:58 GMT
I have a doubt: Scatterdome do you know THE WHOLE Beatles chronology and ALL the Beatles Albums? It's simply THE FAMOUS "Hey Jude" LP front cover.... "Hey Jude" was a compilation vinyl LP (and later, cassette) released in America to collect songs that were not on whole American albums- its songs appeared on completely different albums and singles in Britain. I first decided to collect all of the Beatles' music at age 18 in 1994, when the Beatles had already been put on CD. The American CD releases for those who want a complete collection of their studio songs (not counting the "Anthology" stuff) are the original British albums plus two compilations (Past Masters Volume 1 & 2, which collect singles and B-sides that didn't appear on whole British albums.) The "Hey Jude" collection has not been issued on CD in America as its songs are all already on the other CDs; that's why I've never even seen its cover until now, although I've been aware of the album's existence (and function as a compilation) on vinyl ever since I started collecting the CDs. I love the Beatles, but not enough to collect old vinyl LPs or cassettes when I already have all of their songs on CD. I am generally more into listening to music than collecting stuff for the sake of collecting. Maybe NOW, if I actually had extra money to burn I WOULD collect old vinyl LPs, now that my interest has been piqued by having discovered Uberkinder's website on 9/8 and having started this theory and stream as a result. But I think I've done a pretty good job so far coming up with a theory, without spending any money, based on concrete facts about my heroes that I have already absorbed and memorized over the years. My obsession-level memorization of various Beatles minutae since 1994 is one of the bigger reasons I was able to form a solid theory so quickly. Now let's get off this tangent and get back on track: has anyone found any major weak points in my main theory yet? And how about my Band On The Run theory? |
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Post by Delta on Sept 16, 2003 19:30:51 GMT
BTW: what over their heads is "the famous "burial site"... go to the "come together"-section at the beatles "1" website: www.beatles.com/html/cometogether/index.html. then click on one of the thumbnails under "photos". you'll find that the sixth picture is exactly the same as the picture/painting above the door. the location of where the picture was taken, is being identified as somewhere around john's garden in ascot. (maybe this post should be moved or copied to the "clues"-board to keep this thread clean. can anyone remember in which thread this was discussed earlier?) |
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Post by SunKing on Sept 16, 2003 20:16:17 GMT
Find me in my field of grass--Mother Nature's son
Swaying daises sing a lazy song beneath the sun
From:
Mother Nature's Son (Lennon/McCartney) This one? From the same session but just another shot. In the "Hey Jude" LP front cover George John and Faul look toward the sky. Ringo has still the same pose. |
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Post by SunKing on Sept 16, 2003 20:46:28 GMT
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Post by Forum Manager on Sept 16, 2003 22:36:04 GMT
and notice the yellow patch of grass in the shape of a grave!
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Post by Delta on Sept 16, 2003 23:18:40 GMT
I think we can close the file on the tombstone-outline:   more from this shoot: www.nemsworld.com/beatles/tit/tit.htmbut, let us continue this elsewhere and let this thread return to the original topic. maybe you could also, with all the knowledge you have, contribute to the original discussion. I think your contribution could be of great help to develop these alternate theories. This could also benefit the credibility of 60IF, exploring and researching other possibilities and perhaps, after being proven wrong, dismissing them. what do you think? |
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Post by SunKing on Sept 17, 2003 11:36:09 GMT
 + = [glow=red,2,300]WHY?[/glow] |
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Post by Imgonnaopenmymind on Sept 17, 2003 17:32:49 GMT
I dunno. Amusing artsy album cover?
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Post by Eggman on Sept 17, 2003 17:59:18 GMT
And all are dressed in BLACK!!!!   |
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Post by SunKing on Sept 17, 2003 19:07:35 GMT
Please notice that was THE LAST Beatles photo session...that legacy hanging over their head....
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Post by Eggman on Sept 17, 2003 19:18:22 GMT
Yeah!!! Like saying: "Please always remember who lies here" |
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Post by SunKing on Sept 17, 2003 19:49:36 GMT
So John told:
I buried Paul...in my garden...
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Post by Perplexed on Sept 18, 2003 4:43:25 GMT
If that is Teddy and Eleanor Roosevelt as busts in the photo, then well, in order to pass THROUGH the door behind those Beatles, one has to pass between the Roosevelts and under that pretty garden.
Roosevelt means "field of roses", or 'rose field'. Isn't "rose" a code term for "sub rosa" , or "utmost secrecy" in political spy jargon?).
So, it says symbolically that in order for you to get on the "inside", you'll have to get past all the secrecy.Some of the secrtes are close to the ground, and some of the secrets are up on a pedestal.
If you get past the four guys blocking the door, then you will be in the foyer of the house. There , the sunlight will come through the glass image above the door and you will see WHAT IS BEHIND THE PICTURE.
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