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Post by Perplexed on Mar 13, 2005 23:37:07 GMT
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 13, 2005 23:54:48 GMT
Cute. You know what I was alluding to.
No, I didn't say qualuding to! (I know how you are!)
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 14, 2005 0:08:07 GMT
Qaaludes? Qaaludes? I never took qaaludes. It was everything else I had to learn to avoid!...... ;D  Now, it's Bailey's, Bailey's, *(hic)*, Baileys...... |
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Post by abbey on Mar 14, 2005 0:55:06 GMT
Which means he had plenty of opportunity to study their movements, etc., and probably looked at lot like JPM. Billy was already to step into Paul's shoes.....and house and cars and possessions.
Makes one wonder how "innocent" Billy is in all this? Was in just a guy who "lucked out" or was he aware of what was about to go down?
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 15, 2005 3:32:04 GMT
Perplexed, you seem to be a very clever chap, quick witted and always providing a laugh.
LOL at the thought of (if there was a new JPM on a regular basis) loads of JPM ringers all over the world.
Bumping into one another at the supermarket,
"I was JPM #27"
"oh super, i was JPM #30"
"What a small world eh?" ;D
Anyway, speaking of "a man named lear", IMO not King Lear but Edward Lear, a 19th century english nonsense writer, similar to Lewis Carroll and we all know how much John enjoyed Carroll.
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 15, 2005 3:53:47 GMT
Perplexed, you seem to be a very clever chap, quick witted and always providing a laugh. LOL at the thought of (if there was a new JPM on a regular basis) loads of JPM ringers all over the world. Bumping into one another at the supermarket, "I was JPM #27" "oh super, i was JPM #30" "What a small world eh?" ;D LOL as far as "ringers" or even "quasi-ringers", or even "kinda of a ringer from 50 yards on an overcast day" there must be loads and loads for EVERYbody. I mean, they say no two snowflakes are ever exactly alike, but derned if I can tell 'em apart! A lot of 'em look alike to me. At first perusal, that is............I gave up snow flake reviewing years ago. To be one of the "big boys" at the snowflake game, you need microscopes and staining dishes and a big freezer and I just can't be bothered..... Aha! Yes, but, what about JPM Numbah NINE! Numbah nine, Numbah nine Numbah nine Numbah nine Numbah nine Numbah nine Numbah nine Numbah nine Numbah nine Lear has such a prosaic ring to it. It just sounds so, right, so like a villain in a British novelette or paperback from any era. I wonder why........ John was then , the big reader, at times, who had a pool of literate resources. A lot of which he seems to have just, made up on the spot, but then, with John, it just worked didn't it? I mean, MOST of the time......... I imagine Paul has having been a little more "kinetically" oriented. Always moving, curling up, sprawling out, fidgeting, tapping, walking so fast he'd float, talking so fast all the words would be running together, excitable, manic, sometimes broodingly serious, an easy target for John's particular style of humor, JPM the naturally smart one with an easy, intuituve mind, getting bored with daily process and regimens, and perhaps weak to following pleasures. Prone to intense crushes of short duration on doll-baby females(adults).....perhaps like Ms. Vartan?? I dunno. Just an impression. Ask me in an hour and I'll tell you he passionately loved cribbage. |
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 15, 2005 5:13:10 GMT
Jessica Fletcher. A private homicide detective. I thought that was a dying breed. D'oh! Sorry, not literally dying, of course, just the breeding part. D'oh! I am full of jest."Mannix" was my favorite TV show when I was, well, after Lost in Space got canceled, very young. Private eyes are needed. Perhaps more than eyever. |
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Post by abbey on Mar 15, 2005 16:18:58 GMT
Perplexed: imagine Paul has having been a little more "kinetically" oriented. Always moving, curling up, sprawling out, fidgeting, tapping, walking so fast he'd float, talking so fast all the words would be running together, excitable, manic, sometimes broodingly serious, an easy target for John's particular style of humor, JPM the naturally smart one with an easy, intuituve mind, getting bored with daily process and regimens, and perhaps weak to following pleasures. Prone to intense crushes of short duration on doll-baby females(adults).....perhaps like Ms. Vartan?? BINGO!!! ;D ;D ;DAdd to that periods where he was so exhausted from lack of sleep that he just collapsed. Periods where he didn't want to be bothered & could spend days in bed reading. Those were sides of Paul that weren't spoken of often |
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Post by Perplexed on Mar 16, 2005 4:37:52 GMT
Somewhere it has been said that the Beatles had to pop "bennies" or speed tablet to keep up with the all night jam sessioins in Germany--they had cultivated a reliance, it was said, and long term use of those things can fry you.
Maybe PARTLY why John was so temper prone. Maybe why Paul's health might have flagged (but who knows)......
Sleep. Such a wonderful thing.
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Post by abbey on Mar 16, 2005 16:08:30 GMT
All very, very true. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ  |
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Mar 22, 2005 3:34:55 GMT
If you go to the"Murder, she wrote website & Episode guide" website, which is not the site that the picture above came from, and scroll down to the photos section, click on photos-5 and look at the second picture down. It's an autographed black and white picture of Angela. Look at the eyes, and how they align with each other. It's very disturbing, and shocking. I was looking for episode descriptions that might relate to what happened to Paul. I thought he may have secretly played the role of Angela in part of one episode, but when I look at the picture of Angela on that site, I seriously have to wonder if it may have been more. |
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Post by Michelle66 on Mar 22, 2005 11:25:22 GMT
If so, then William well knew the Beatles prior to the events of 1966. I thought I had already posted this, but probably I'm wrong. Billy Shepherd wrote articles for the Beatles Monthly Book, starting from n. 2 (september 1963) to n. 77 (december 1969), when the publication were suspended. The first articles were called "A tale of four Beatles".  |
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Post by PaulBearer on Mar 24, 2005 6:53:41 GMT
Speaking of Bill Shepperd... Look up this Bee Gees interview with Larry KingDo a search for Bill Shepperd... ...M. GIBB: If we do arrangements -- for instance, we do our own backtracks, anyway, where we play our own instruments. But if we needed orchestra or things like that on it, we had a wonderful guy called Bill Shepperd (ph) for many years...
KING: Who would come in and arrange.
M. GIBB: And he would arrange all our music that we heard.
KING: Did any of you say to each other, "Maybe one of us ought to learn this?"... |
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Post by PaulBearer on Mar 24, 2005 7:55:56 GMT
We appear to have lost the original post for this which showed, as I recall, a picture of a Canadian Bill Shepperd musician and a mini-biography which states he died in 1989. Does anyone have that link please? I couldn't find it using a search engine.
The point or speculation I want to make is this. It appears to me that Bill Shepperd could very well be the man on the bus. Same style hair, same nose etc. And also, it could very well be Faul. My point is that I think maybe Faul flitted between the two identities. Even too this day, if Faul wants to disappear or travel incognito, I believe he can do so by simply removing his makeup etc. Perhaps he finally killed off his true identity in 1989 because that's when Bill Shepperd officially died. I want to make other observations but can't until we get that link back.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Mar 24, 2005 8:16:26 GMT
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Post by PaulBearer on Mar 24, 2005 8:31:12 GMT
An anomaly about how the name is spelt: Go to www.beatlesales.com/RARITIES/rarities.html and search for "Sheppard" - it's about the 1964 book but we've seen the book author Billy spelt "Sheppard". Was there a second later print that changed the spelling of the name? Hmmm... And back to the BeeGees thing. It appears that this Billy Sheppard arranger only did their 60s or early work like "Spicks and Specks". See www.milesago.com/industry/festival.htm and (again) find "Sheppard": ...Of tremendous importance was the influence of Festival's staff producers. Robert Iredale was their first, from the 50s and mid- '60s and he recorded many eary classics with local acts like O'Keefe and a young british-born vocal trio called The Bee Gees. Another imortant if shortlived name was producer-arranger Bill Sheppard, who took over the Bee Gees and who with independent studio owner Ossie Byrne produecd some of their first important recordings, including the classic Spicks and Specks.
With the departure of Iredale and Sheppard, the multi-talented Pat Aulton took over in, working as house producer from the mid-60s to the early 70s; he had also produced many hits for the Spin and Sunshine labels before joining Festival in 1967 and besides as the many Australian classics he oversaw, he also worked with big international names like Neil Sedaka... |
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Post by LUCY on Mar 24, 2005 19:19:05 GMT
Is there any resemblence of this man to the policeman that gets up and leaves the crowd in the early frames of MMT? just wondering.....
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 25, 2005 2:53:51 GMT
As a recording artist, Bill Shepherd has released such successful albums as the pop instrumental LP Shepherd and His Flock in 1959 and, in 1968, the Aurora LP. It is as an engineer, and later a producer/arranger, however, that he had a major impact on popular music by virtue of his association with the Bee Gees. The British-born Shepherd had first achieved notice in the pop world in 1959 with his work as producer/composer on a film called Idle on Parade, which attempted to put Anthony Newley into a kind of rock & roll comedy vehicle. He also worked with legendary producer Joe Meek during the early '60s and cut a song with Gene Vincent, conducting the orchestral accompaniment for the American rock legend in 1963 before emigrating to Australia in 1964. Shepherd joined Festival Records and first began working with Barry, Robin, and Maurice Gibb in 1965 on their recording of Arthur Alexander's "Every Day I Have to Cry" and the Barry Gibb-authored B-side, "You Wouldn't Know." Shepherd departed Australia for England in 1966, and by 1967 was back working with the Bee Gees, this time under the auspices of manager/producer Robert Stigwood. He was responsible for many of the arrangements and the conducting of many accompaniments on their '60s recordings, from small string ensembles to 30-piece orchestras, in effect serving the same function with this group that George Martin had with the Beatles. Shepherd's good professional relationship with the group in those years, along with his musical range, allowed him to work in any of the idioms in which they chose to record, from psychedelia to pop ballads, and he was, at least as much as guitarist Vince Melouney or drummer Colin Petersen, a full-time member of the group in everything but name. Indeed, in those years the group often toured England and performed on-stage with an orchestra in tow, and Shepherd was very much the architect of their sound. In 1968, Shepherd also released an album entitled Aurora on which he conducted a soft pop chorus in performances of songs composed by the Gibb brothers. He remained closely involved with all of the group's work up to and including To Whom It May Concern, which was their last album done in England. Only on the rather more ambitious double-LP Odessa did he cede any of the arranging chores, in that instance to Paul Buckmaster. Although his relationship with the group ended in 1972, Shepherd's arrangements and conducting for the group are still spoken of highly by all concerned. ~ Bruce Eder, All Music Guide The Bee Gees sing and play 14 Barry Gibb songs (1965) First (1967) Horizontal (1968) Idea (1968) Odessa (1969) Cucumber castle (1969) 2 years on (1970) Trafalgar (1971) To whom it may concern (1972) www.beegees-world.com/bio_band.html |
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Post by beatled on Mar 25, 2005 3:21:28 GMT
That cameo in MMT seems to be a la Hitchcock. Was he the Director of Magical Mystery Tour too? Watching him on Anthology, he talked of the others feeling as if he was "running things" because he spent so much time with the writers, cameramen, etc. I don't know if this makes him the director, but he seemed to be implying that he "directed" in the sense that he was doing many of the tasks of a movie director. (if that makes sense) Btw, that would be a Hitchcock move, yes. |
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Post by Perplexed on Apr 15, 2005 6:45:50 GMT
I found this shot. I can't make it any larger right now--I can see it on my monitor larger, and it confirms what you said about Angela Lansbury.  It's true. You were right. Wide open eyes, the owl like gaze. Beaming. Open. |
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Post by plastic paul on Apr 25, 2005 2:38:55 GMT
Are you trying to say that JPM didn't die and Angela Lansbury is an alter ego of his?
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Post by ReallyReallyDead on Apr 25, 2005 10:24:08 GMT
Yes. Bill was a "Paperback Writer". BILLY SHEphERd = BILLY SHEERs Just like William (BILL) reallY-SHakes-up-his-pEERS or BILLY SHEERS for short was a play writer, and friend of the Queen. (Yes, the one and only!) And yes, I know it's SHEARS and that he may not have actually been the one and only, but the point is made. Incidentally, the "A" was added to Shakespeare too. Notice that to go from BILLY SHEphERd to BILLY SHEERs you have to remove P,H,D. Perhaps Billy had a PHD which they swiftly confiscated and destroyed, because it was evedence? |
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Post by Perplexed on Apr 25, 2005 10:52:55 GMT
Dr. Billy Shear?
Doctor?
What is really the meaning of "Doctor?" In the broadest sense, not just in the practice of medicine, but as a rank in academia?
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Post by Perplexed on Apr 25, 2005 10:54:10 GMT
Are you trying to say that JPM didn't die and Angela Lansbury is an alter ego of his? No. Big round eyes, that's all. But, I dunno now..... |
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Post by abbey on Apr 25, 2005 14:11:23 GMT
I doubt very seriously that Angela Lansbury is Paul's alter ego. She does have big eyes but so did Bette Davis.......
Paul is dead and I believe Ms Lansbury is alive and well, I hope. Paul was never, ever in any way feminine acting. He was a 100% hetersexual male. Had he taken on a new identity, which he didn't since he IS dead, that identity would have been male.
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