Bill Shepherd: Viv and Let Die

[Skydeli]

Okay...okay...I'm getting really confused here..
60If story has been changed to add that Billy Pepperpot is supposedly the Faul of today. Then it's the guy at the back of the bus in the MMT movie.. Now we have Faul as being Viv Stanshall! What is going on here? It's getting a bit thick so can somebody please explain it a bit clearer for me?
I still believe that JP died and was replaced...We have the WHY, but now were getting into things that really dont make any sense as to 'who, what, where and when'--Is there anyone who would be greatful enough to post a time line in detail as to who Macca really is because it's getting really confusing!!!!! Clean it up!

[TheDZ]

If I may, the story of Faul and who he is , is rather important to fleshing out the whole story.

Paul died and was replaced by....
a professional impersonator, an man trained and experienced in being a convincing impostor.
The whole idea of being an impostor implies secrecy and subterfuge, things that are valuable to those in certain circles.
(ie. military, intelligence and politics)
Spy?Mason?

60IF/TKIN has stated from the start that British Intel was involved in the Beatles psy-op. The move of operations to commonwealth Canadian soil served their purposes very well.

Let me state here that I believe that doubles are of enormous importance to the Illuminati coercion machine and that people who impersonate well are used quite profusely.

They are quite good at what they do.

Clue or Blathering?
Tavistock=School?

If they needed a lookalike only they could have used Keith Allison, if they only needed a sound alike , Denny Laine would have done the job.

What they needed was a man who could IMPERSONATE.
What they needed was a man who could give up his life easily and quickly, because he had already done so.

TKIN has been in a steady process of refinement over the years and that fact has never been disguised.
This forum's purpose was to flesh out the document!

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

[LUCY]

sounds realistic........

[BeatlePaul]

The said:

If I may, the story of Faul and who he is , is rather important to fleshing out the whole story.

Paul died and was replaced by....
a professional impersonator, an man trained and experienced in being a convincing impostor.
The whole idea of being an impostor implies secrecy and subterfuge, things that are valuable to those in certain circles.
(ie. military, intelligence and politics)
Spy?Mason?

60IF/TKIN has stated from the start that British Intel was involved in the Beatles psy-op. The move of operations to commonwealth Canadian soil served their purposes very well.

Let me state here that I believe that doubles are of enormous importance to the Illuminati coercion machine and that people who impersonate well are used quite profusely.

They are quite good at what they do.

Clue or Blathering?
Tavistock=School?

If they needed a lookalike only they could have used Keith Allison, if they only needed a sound alike , Denny Laine would have done the job.

What they needed was a man who could IMPERSONATE.
What they needed was a man who could give up his life easily and quickly, because he had already done so.

TKIN has been in a steady process of refinement over the years and that fact has never been disguised.
This forum's purpose was to flesh out the document!

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

Those are PERFECTLY my words too.

[TotalInformation]

Do you mean the art school?

I think its a safe assumptino that art schools and music schools in Liverpool at the time were overrun with Tavistock and Masonic types. I would like to know what kind of connection JPM may have had to the Bonzos. JPM loved all that 20s/30s jazz stuff as well. He was doing standards from the 30s in their act as late as Dec 1962.

[ReallyReallyDead]

ReallyReallyDead said:

w00tness and stuff

Miss Vagabond says that you'd have to be on drugs for this to make sense (paraphrase).

Well, I'm not on drugs and it makes sence to me.
Don't do drugs!

[Michelle66]

BeatlePaul said:

ah ... It's Mal because the glasses .....

I didn't say it's Mal Evans because of the glasses, I said
"I find it hard to believe that someone who’s being
operated have something written on his chest and his
glasses on" (and I can add, who is not under anaesthetic),
that means something different.
Anyway, he looks like Mal Evans to me.

[plastic paul]

BP i dont wish to cause friction, but i believe you are too quick to turn the blame on to other people for not seeing what you see.

You are clearly very single minded and strong in your opinions which can be an invaluable attribute, but when someone disagrees or suggests an alternative theory, you are too quick to jump on their backs and say they cant see what you see which makes them a fool or a non believer or whatever.

Remember that we are all (or at least supposed to be) PID believers and all working towards a common goal, so try take what people say constructively and give further evidence or information to make them understand rather than making them out be stupid or misquoting people.

I know it sounds like im having a go but believe me this isn't a dig, just a piece of friendly advice

[BeatlePaul]

plastic said:

BP i dont wish to cause friction, but i believe you are too quick to turn the blame on to other people for not seeing what you see.

Blame, friction ... what where?

You are clearly very single minded and strong in your opinions which can be an invaluable attribute, but when someone disagrees or suggests an alternative theory, you are too quick to jump on their backs and say they cant see what you see which makes them a fool or a non believer or whatever.

I opened this forum to listen to credible alternative theories.
Some have put fundamental subjects here and Michelle66 contribution is one of them.

Remember that we are all (or at least supposed to be) PID believers and all working towards a common goal, so try take what people say constructively and give further evidence or information to make them understand rather than making them out be stupid or misquoting people.

Stupid or misquoting ...where ..when?

I know it sounds like im having a go but believe me this isn't a dig, just a piece of friendly advice

Advice for what?

Michelle66 is fundamental here.
She read the Mal Evans theory in another forum so she posted here to ask.
I've replied her.

You... don't talk for the other people.


FYI My avatar is a gift that Michelle66 gently sent me.

[BeatlePaul]

ReallyReallyDead said:

Miss Vagabond says that you'd have to be on drugs for this to make sense (paraphrase).

Well, I'm not on drugs and it makes sence to me.
Don't do drugs!

Who is Miss Vagabond?
Krisia who changed opinion BECAUSE her ex-boyfriend left her...

FANTASTIC!

[Michelle66]

BeatlePaul said:

Michelle66 is fundamental here.
She read the Mal Evans theory in another forum so she posted here to ask.
I've replied her.

Just to say that my idea about Mal Evans is not from
another forum. It is the "official version" about the film
and I don't think the Beatles were lying about it.
I tryed to explain why and that's still my opinion.

[BeatlePaul]

Michelle66 said:

Just to say that my idea about Mal Evans is not from
another forum. It is the "official version" about the film
and I don't think the Beatles were lying about it.
I tryed to explain why and that's still my opinion.

I'd like to know the source of that.




Somewhere I've read that people soon noticed the "Paul" on Sgt. Pepper was just "too tall" and the "official" explanation was that who in the cover was Mal Evans... too because Paul was unavaible at that time.

See how reliable are the so called "official" explanation here:

60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1115649025

The Magical Mystical (for Mystification) Boy was Billy (Viv) Shepherd.

Now it makes sense.



A naked Mal

[abbey]

I think the "body" was Mal Evans. It was "painted" white like the geisha's do on their faces making it appear more creepy and corpse like. The writing on the chest could easily have been done with some type of marker...plastic surgeons mark on the body before surgery.

Mal might have gone along with it for whatever reason. Maybe he wasn't told the truth about Paul's being murdered. He might even have been told Paul was away recuperating from some ailment or surgery for his IBS and later Mal found out the truth. Possibly he wrote it all down. Wish I knew what was in the trunk that was auctioned off. What did become of Mal's stuff in that trunk??

That "body" could be anyone's. It looks broader than Mal would have been, I think. The glasses could be a trick to direct your mind to Mal.

Questions and more questions. That's what this forum is all about. Finding answers which in turns creates more questions. To find the truth and give Paul his rightful place in history, we have to work TOGETHER! United we stand.......divided we fall, which is what the opposition would love to see. Pull together PID'ers!!!! There are questions, debates, fades, etc., and so many people showing us more evidence or evidence from a different angle. But from a different angle it is still valid!

The real truth lies out there, just like the secrets of ancient cultures, and we have some wonderfully, talented "archeologists" among the members of this form. Thanks to all of you.......I won't name names because I would hate to leave someone out. But all members of this forum stand up and take a bow!

[Michelle66]

About the man in the bus, I tried to look at the seat where Faul was sitting in the same scene. Well, he is reading a newspaper and has his hat down on his face, so you can’t really see it at the beginning of the scene.





And he is still reading at the end (when the camera goes back on the bus)

[Michelle66]

Here is where I read the news.





And this is my last post on this thread because we both are not changing our minds,
so I can’t see what’s worth going on.

[BeatlePaul]

Fantastic post Michelle!



"The short films of "Hello Goodbye" which you have seen on T.V. were produced by the Beatles on the stage of Saville Theatre London on Friday November 10.

Just the day after Paul was sent into the space.

GIFT FOR CHILDREN - If you would like to send a Christmas present to a little orphan girl or boy (Nicholas reference)... here are the names of six Homes who would be very grateful for your help.
Strawberry Field



Magician Faul (Bill with Bell) covered by daisies...

Excellent as always

[BeatlePaul]

Taken from:
www.rarebeatles.com/album/album.htm

... closing this thread ...

[abbey]

One last notation: Paul was not sent into space. He was buried in Strawberry Fields and later his body was dumped in ocean.........The Octopuses Garden.

Paul is not in outer space.

But, you're right, Michelle66, there is no use continuing to try getting BP to agree with either of us. You did make a good point, BTW. I didn't realize Mal was as broad as he obviously was.

[plastic paul]

I agree JPM is not in space.

Although i've realised to expect the unexpected due to this forum particularly, i find it hard to believe, even in this day and age it costs a lot of money to "get to space" let alone the phenomenal figures from the 60's when space was at a premium so to speak.

According to most sources the beatles had little control over their finances, so to release that sort of equity would be incredibly difficult for them, and who else would "pay/arrange" for the "space scattering/funeral"? certainly not the big cheeses who killed him or knew about his death, remember guilt isn't an issue.

[TheDZ]

[byrdsmaniac]

Sister said:

Paul is not in outer space.

Decreeing things doesn't make them so.

Dezombificator, what significance do you attribute to
those pictures above?

[TheDZ]

byrdsmaniac said:

Decreeing things doesn't make them so.

Dezombificator, what significance do you attribute to
those pictures above?

Hi Byrdman
Gemini 12 recorded an eclipse on Nov,12,1966. Paul's remains were ejected into space from Gemini12.

The Eclipse symbol is on the mission badge, the MMT bus, the cover of Days of Future past and Her Satanic Majesties Request. All Dated 1966/67.

The eclipse symbol was use to signify knowledge of Paul's death(Out of the Blue) and his burial in space(Into the Black), by those in the know.

and then Bill/Viv/? became False Paul.( just to stay within topic )

Also do you see the Eye symbol?

[PaulBearer]

Double Release! Hee hee! Once again...

[BeatlePaul]

Please notice that Paul McCartney is no more mentioned with his full name but only "Paul".

Character "Paul" and the 3 Beatles.

[BeatlePaul]

The said:

I am the "Eye in The Sky" looking at you.... I can read your mind

I think that Sylvie was in that capsule too.

Adam and Eve for a New World