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Post by Imgonnaopenmymind on Sept 19, 2003 22:45:18 GMT
1967
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band:
PAUL -- "Getting Better," "She's Leaving Home," central insert of "A Day in the Life"
NEIL ASPINALL -- "Fixing a Hole," "When I'm Sixty-Four," "Lovely Rita"
FAUL -- "With a Little Help From My Friends" (with voice lowered and slowed down to match Ringo's)
Magical Mystery Tour:
PAUL -- "Your Mother Should Know (from a take reassembled by George Martin from 10 takes)," "Penny Lane" (see Neil Aspinall listing)
NEIL ASPINALL -- "Penny Lane" (overdubbed the bits Paul hadn't completed and added a second vocal; the only part where Paul's voice can be heard alone is the line "very strange"), "Fool on the Hill" (some of which was confirmed to be his handiwork; the rest was George's)
GEORGE HARRISON -- "Fool on the Hill"
FAUL -- "Hello Goodbye" (on top of original imitator Terry Draper's original track)
1968
The Beatles (aka the "White Album"):
PAUL -- none
NEIL ASPINALL -- "Back in the U.S.S.R.," "Martha My Dear," "Blackbird," "Mother Nature's Son," "Why Don't We Do It in the Road?"
FAUL -- "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da," "Rocky Raccoon," "I Will"
Singles:
NEIL ASPINALL -- "Lady Madonna"
FAUL -- "Hey Jude"
1969
Abbey Road:
PAUL -- "Her Majesty"
NEIL ASPINALL -- central insert of "You Never Give Me Your Money" ("Out of college, money spent, see no future, pay no rent, all the money's gone, nowhere to go"), "Oh! Darling," part of "The End" ("Say you're gonna be in my dreams")
FAUL -- almost all songs
1970
Let It Be:
PAUL -- none
NEIL ASPINALL -- none
FAUL -- all songs
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Post by Ed on Sept 20, 2003 13:22:35 GMT
Imgonnaopenmymind,
Could you please explain a little more as to why you consider this list 'Definitive' and how you came to your conclusions.
Many thanks
Ed
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Post by SunKing on Sept 20, 2003 13:50:51 GMT
Quite perfect Imgonnaopenmymind. Bravo!
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Post by Ed on Sept 20, 2003 14:22:21 GMT
Any chance of letting us know why it's a 'quite perfect' description?
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Post by SunKing on Sept 20, 2003 14:25:25 GMT
Ed, Just a question. Have you ALL the original Beatles Album or/and all "the original" CDs (those dated 1986-1987)? Well, listen to the songs...
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Post by Ed on Sept 20, 2003 14:44:10 GMT
Sun King,
To answer your question, I have every Beatles album on vinyl. Most were bought in the late seventies / early eighties.
I have, since then, bought a few of the original mono releases second-hand (used). So far I have: 'A Hard Day's Night', 'Help', 'Revolver' and 'Sgt Pepper'
I also have everything official on CD, plus numerous bootlegs.
There are interesting things to hear in the different mixes, however non in anyway incline me towards the idea that Paul is dead.
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Post by Darkhorse on Sept 20, 2003 15:14:09 GMT
Great presentation I'mgonnaopenmymind. ;D
I am not completely sold on Harrison getting the credits for The Fool on the Hill although I remained openminded. It sounds to me like Neil Aspinall on that song and Back in the USSR sounds like Faul. Anyone else agree?
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Post by Ed on Sept 20, 2003 15:27:47 GMT
Darkhorse says: It sounds to me like Neil Aspinall on that song
I guess I'll have to ask the question again. Why does it sound like Neil Aspinall???? Do you have any verifyable samples of his singing?
Thought not.... #nosmileys
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Post by SunKing on Sept 20, 2003 15:30:39 GMT
There are interesting things to hear in the different mixes, however non in anyway incline me towards the idea that Paul is dead. Well, then WHY you in this forum? I'm curious. ------------------------------------------- I've listened to Faul live on May 11th 2003. Absolutely not his voice in original "Back in the USSR" version. Very probably Neil in "The Fool On The Hill" The rest is good.
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Post by SunKing on Sept 20, 2003 15:34:08 GMT
Darkhorse says: It sounds to me like Neil Aspinall on that songI guess I'll have to ask the question again. Why does it sound like Neil Aspinall? Do you have any verifyable samples of his singing? Thought not.... Already published. Neil true voice matches with that in "The Fool On The Hill". The ORIGINAL James Paul's voice NOT.
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Post by Ed on Sept 20, 2003 16:06:37 GMT
Already published. Neil true voice matches with that in "The Fool On The Hill".
Already published where?
I've read most of this site, but may have overloked the odd post.
Most 'freindly' (on whatever topic) message boards allow newbies to make mistakes.
Could you please point me towards the 'right' thread, because I'm having difficulty finding it.
Thank you.
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Post by Darkhorse on Sept 20, 2003 16:21:31 GMT
"I've listened to Faul live on May 11th 2003. Absolutely not his voice in original "Back in the USSR" version" Interesting Sun King. Thank you.
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Post by LordChinfist on Sept 20, 2003 16:54:11 GMT
Who sang on Lady Madonna and Hey Jude? Can I assume Faul?
Also, Sun King, I can see how the pictures have been doctored, but are you also implying that in re-releases after 1987 of the music itself, the voices have been changed as well? Interesting.
By the way, I'm relatively new to posting on message boards. How do I go about quoting a previous message that I want to reply to, where a box is drawn around that quote? Thanks
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Post by xpt626 on Sept 20, 2003 17:26:54 GMT
...How do I go about quoting a previous message that I want to reply to, where a box is drawn around that quote? Thanks... LordChinfist, in the upper right corner of the post you want to quote/reply to, you'll see an icon that says "quote". Click on that, and it will open a block for you to write your hew post, automatically placing the post you are quoting in the small box at the head of your new post. You can also edit it, in case you are only replying to a portion of the original post (like I did above, with your post). Hope that helps
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Post by LordChinfist on Sept 20, 2003 18:34:38 GMT
LordChinfist, in the upper right corner of the post you want to quote/reply to, you'll see an icon that says "quote". Click on that, and it will open a block for you to write your hew post, automatically placing the post you are quoting in the small box at the head of your new post. You can also edit it, in case you are only replying to a portion of the original post (like I did above, with your post). Hope that helps Thanks xpt626. Wow, I did it. Horray for me!!
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Post by Imgonnaopenmymind on Sept 20, 2003 20:40:41 GMT
The reason I gave George credit for "Fool on the Hill" is because of voice comparisons of him and that particular opening line.
Somebody who listened to one of George's songs commented on the old forum that the voice on "Fool on the Hill" sounded a lot like George and that, before they even knew about 60IF, their sibling (or other close relative) thought the song they used was one of Faul's, judging by how the voices sounded so similar.
I compared a certain take of an outtake from the White Album ("Not Guilty") where George sounds particularly like Faul to "Fool on the Hill" and they matched up perfectly.
Then I compared George's speaking voice to the "day after day" line and it matched up well. Coincidentally, it also matches up with the "Our story begins in Corsica..." line off the Beatles' 1966 Christmas album.
Thus, I concluded that George Harrison was the actual singer of the Beatles song "The Fool on the Hill" and also that he was the actual speaker of a line believed by Uberkinder to be one spoken by Terry Draper.
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Post by OceanChild on Sept 20, 2003 21:22:02 GMT
There are interesting things to hear in the different mixes, however non in anyway incline me towards the idea that Paul is dead. Well, then WHY you in this forum? I'm curious. ------------------------------------------- I don’t understand why you only want people who 100% believe that Paul is Dead. If all you ever have here is ‘yes’ people then you will not be challenged enough to put together a good enough case. If you really want this to be made public you will be up against much tougher opponents than someone who just comes in here and says ‘I don’t believe this.’ Both sides need to be looked at and considered in order to make your case watertight. Do you think a lawyer preparing for a case never thinks of the challenges they will face in court? If they only ever thought, ‘My client is innocent and I’m just not going to listen to anyone who thinks otherwise’ then how would they do when they got to court? Really, if you want to be taken seriously you all are going to have to take on this criticism in an adult way. If you just want to stay on this board and talk amongst yourselves and not get any further then keep pushing everyone away. Just my feelings on the matter.
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Post by Ed on Sept 20, 2003 22:41:38 GMT
Good point, well made, OceanChild
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Post by Darkhorse on Sept 20, 2003 22:53:37 GMT
IGOMM, get a copy of Harrison's Best of part II and look for the song 'Love Comes to Everyone'. If you can find it on Kazaa then that is better although I've had trouble finding it. The song will freak you out. Harrison sounds so much like Faul and/or Paul that it is unbelievable.
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Post by SunKing on Sept 21, 2003 9:39:29 GMT
Who sang on Lady Madonna and Hey Jude? Can I assume Faul? Also, Sun King, I can see how the pictures have been doctored, but are you also implying that in re-releases after 1987 of the music itself, the voices have been changed as well? Interesting. Lady Madonna = Back In USSR =You Never Give Me Your Money (Out of college, money spent See no future, pay no rent All the money's gone, nowhere to go...) insert -> Neil Aspinall Hey Jude -> Faul I've noticed that in "1962-1966" compilation CD version James Paul's voice was heavly filtered.
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Post by TheWatusi on Sept 21, 2003 20:15:53 GMT
Really? some of our best evidence to skeptics is the doctoring of photos, editing of original voice samples, etc...
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Post by SAPA on Sept 22, 2003 8:51:04 GMT
And you could say that Badfingers "day after day" Is James Paul
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Post by SAPA on Sept 22, 2003 8:53:37 GMT
Or may have been a james paul cover song done by one of the vocal impersonators.
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Post by SunKing on Sept 22, 2003 8:58:06 GMT
"We had to check out a number of imitators (and there were many at that time)" from 60IF document
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Post by MotherNaureSon on Sept 22, 2003 9:05:45 GMT
Why do you think Neil Aspinall sang anything? If it's only because his face appears on the White Album poster, then I think it's not enough, since he helped to compile the pictures in the poster. Wasn't supposed to be Terry Drapper?
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