Maacc
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Post by Maacc on Oct 18, 2005 6:45:29 GMT
Alright - I can see I'm getting a hard time for questioning this, but that's ok. I have read the thread through, but maybe I'm not getting across just what I'm trying to say. I'm not looking for a fight or an argument, just an explanation, and I trust nothing I've said breaches the TKIN rules. I wouldn't want to do that...
Anyway, all I can do is state my opinion, which is that visually these aren't the same people. They just LOOK different. For them to be the same person, there could be no appearances of the two together after 1966, yet there have been. And Neil still works for Apple and Billy does his thing. Does no-one else have any problems with this?
Where does this leave the Viv Stanshall story - is he the same guy as well. What about all the back story that was developed for Billy Shepherd that got the forum as far as it has - Canadian policeman and all the associated clues - do we just ditch all that, despite the work that went into it, and the fact that many forum members thought it above questioning.
I don't like the implication here that because I've questioned something I get ridiculed, but I'm not the one changing direction at the drop of a hat and expecting everyone else to follow without hesitation. Well, I've got a sound check to go to, so I'll catch up later.
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 18, 2005 7:07:50 GMT
How about a Neil / Billy Pepper (from the pepperpots LP) fade?
... exactly.... Exactly what? Where's the fade? .... here it is ... We seem to be looking for where William came FROM, but what about where James Paul, if he is alive, went TO? Even IF I am compelled TO end sentences WITH prepositions and capitalize them mid-sentence? At? |
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Post by plastic paul on Oct 18, 2005 13:22:36 GMT
Perp, that is a possibilty i sympathise with.
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Post by andrewexelor on Oct 18, 2005 20:08:04 GMT
I'm no more sure than this than i am of anything anymore, it could be neil but i don't know, one thing i will say of neil though is that his eyes are a fair distance apart... Are you sure? That guy IS our "Sgt. Pepper" Believe it or not, thats some kind of PIA proof. |
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Post by helterskelter on Oct 18, 2005 20:38:22 GMT
Hey Maacc, I feel the exact same way as you do about this thread, and I completely agree with your previous post. This theory doesn't make sense to me. They just LOOK different, their foreheads, noses, eyes, and chins are completely different. Their faces just don't match. Also, they've been seen together after 1966, and they have completely different lives. I'm just restating what Maacc already said, actually. But he's right, isn't he?
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 18, 2005 20:38:37 GMT
Are you sure? That guy IS our "Sgt. Pepper" Believe it or not, thats some kind of PIA proof. ? |
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Post by andrewexelor on Oct 18, 2005 21:10:26 GMT
You know them, they make up any non-sense possible. They'll say "Oh, that Pepper pic doesnt match because Neil posed for it instead of Paul."
Idiots.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 18, 2005 21:21:39 GMT
You know them, they make up any non-sense possible. They'll say "Oh, that Pepper pic doesnt match because Neil posed for it instead of Paul." Idiots.
THAT'S JUST THE TRUTH. Unfortunately Neil posed "for it instead Paul" until today: |
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Post by helterskelter on Oct 18, 2005 21:37:20 GMT
I just don't see how that would work. They have two completely different lives! It's just impossible. And that picture you posted of Neil, he looks nothing like the False Paul of today. So does he like wear a mask when he's going around acting as Fake Paul or something?
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 18, 2005 21:57:56 GMT
I just don't see how that would work. They have two completely different lives! Any RECENT picture with Faul and Neil together? It's just impossible. And that picture you posted of Neil, he looks nothing like the False Paul of today. What picture you mean? All match. So does he like wear a mask when he's going around acting as Fake Paul or something? Take a look to this picture below: digilander.libero.it/Sun_King/billy_shepherd/billy_shears.jpgExperts can tell if that is a make up or not |
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Post by helterskelter on Oct 18, 2005 22:10:14 GMT
#1, you don't need a recent picture with fake Paul and Neil together to prove that they have two different lives.
#2 No, not all of the pictures between Neil and fake Paul match. As andrew stated above, those pictures don't come close to matching.
#3 That picture is just fake Paul with make up on, right? What does that have to do with Neil?
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 18, 2005 22:56:44 GMT
For both:
Have you forget the "guy" on "Spies Like Us" cover?
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Post by andrewexelor on Oct 18, 2005 23:02:25 GMT
Uhm...Im afraid I dont understand.
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Post by helterskelter on Oct 18, 2005 23:12:24 GMT
What about the guy on the "Spies Like Us" cover?
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 19, 2005 0:08:31 GMT
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Post by sinbad on Oct 19, 2005 2:15:32 GMT
Faul's head looks stretched in the above fade.
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Post by ironmask on Oct 19, 2005 2:32:47 GMT
As mentioned on another thread, I'm coming around to the idea that Neil Aspinall may have been just another character invented by Billy.
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 19, 2005 7:03:11 GMT
Faul's head looks stretched in the above fade. Have you the original 45 rpm? Me yes and the picture is UNTOUCHED. |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 19, 2005 7:04:54 GMT
As mentioned on another thread, I'm coming around to the idea that Neil Aspinall may have been just another character invented by Billy. Exactly.... better it was a "reverse enginering" one.   Bill/Neil AFTER and BEFORE the surgery and make-up. All already written in the White Album Poster. |
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Post by Perplexed on Oct 19, 2005 9:50:01 GMT
As mentioned on another thread, I'm coming around to the idea that Neil Aspinall may have been just another character invented by Billy. Exactly.... better it was a "reverse enginering" one. Bill/Neil AFTER and BEFORE the surgery and make-up. All already written in the White Album Poster. In dont know why, bu the Neil on the left kind of reminds me of John Lennon in a way, though the eyes and so forth are all wrong, I dont know why. |
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Post by sinbad on Oct 20, 2005 1:44:23 GMT
Billy Shepherd was a pen name made up by JPM before he died. Its basis is in the Shake-speare scam. Where did you get that information? |
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Post by beatled on Oct 20, 2005 2:15:06 GMT
Billy Shepherd was a pen name made up by JPM before he died. Its basis is in the Shake-speare scam. Where did you get that information? He's talking about the theory of Francis Bacon as the one who wrote under the pen name of Shakespeare. You know my theory Sinbad.. Billy Shepherd was a name used by someone close to the group writing in the third person for that Beatle bio, and the also the Beatle magazine, where the first person would have been more correct. I dunno about JPM, but obviously the list of "persons of interest" is a short one. From there, the pen name sorta floated around and landed on the replacement, an ironic twist. |
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Post by ironmask on Oct 20, 2005 13:32:35 GMT
"reverse engineering" BP, I got a crazy notion which may or may not be what you mean? Are all those early photos of "Neil" actually Billy and after 1966 history was rewritten saying it was someone called "Neil Aspinall". I know that sounds out-there but...can we find true vintage material from before the end of 66 that mentions Neil specifically? Or did people start mentioning and talking about him only later on? An absurd idea I know but...  |
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Post by BeatlePaul on Oct 20, 2005 15:12:12 GMT
"reverse engineering" BP, I got a crazy notion which may or may not be what you mean? Are all those early photos of "Neil" actually Billy and after 1966 history was rewritten saying it was someone called "Neil Aspinall". I know that sounds out-there but...can we find true vintage material from before the end of 66 that mentions Neil specifically? Or did people start mentioning and talking about him only later on? An absurd idea I know but... At this point we know: Who was called "Neil Aspinall" was "our" Faux-Paul too. Who was called "Billy Shepherd- Billy Pepper" was "Neil Aspinall" too. "Billy Shepherd" was a writer as well as "Neil Aspinall" on Beatle Books. After 1966 there was in Beatles works so (too) many references to the name Bill. From Billy Shears to Bealte Bill. I think the "reverse engineering" about the stage name "Neil Aspinall" started when Billy Shepherd entered in Bealtes entourage with Mal Evans. P.S. I think that Magical Mystery Tour Ringo's Aunt Jessie was the allegory of Billy's mother (references about in "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill" and in "How Do You Sleep") Ringo had actually an aunt living in Canada. |
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Post by Maacc on Oct 21, 2005 12:01:41 GMT
BP, I think there's a lot of confusion about how this deal went down. Why don't you put up a rough timeline showing what you think happened. I can only speak for myself, but I still don't understand what you're trying to say. None of the permutations I can think of make any sense, so any help would be appreciated. It would be relatively easy to check whether or not there was a Neil Aspinall at Liverpool Institute.
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