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Post by JoJo on Jan 9, 2004 23:39:56 GMT
Anyone here have a Pepper album from when it was first released? This is from this URL: www.george-martin.com/read_gm.html11/8/02 12:01:48 AM 152.163.188.37 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows NT 5.0) Dear Sir: I am a physician and retired American Astronaut. In the spring of 1967, I bought a Sgt. Pepper LP in Palo Alto, California on the day the album was released. I later discovered that its black vinyl glowed with a strange yellow-green pattern when exposed to a black (i.e. UV) light. I still have it, and it still does this. I have been unable to find anyone who is aware of this phenomenon Can you shed any light on this subject? Thanks. William F. Fisher, M.D. wff1360@aol.com Boy would I love to see this!!
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Post by NoWhereMan on Jan 10, 2004 1:22:31 GMT
Weird wild stuff.
Someone should email this guy and ask him to post a photo of this somewhere on the web.
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Post by LUCY on Jan 10, 2004 4:37:20 GMT
anyone have a copy they could check this out?
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Post by Otacon on Jan 10, 2004 21:50:08 GMT
...my dad might have one...but there is one problem....he let his friend borrow them a long time ago and he never got them back. Supposedly, he still has them (and, if I'm not mistaken, with my dad's name on them). I might be able to get them back if I play dumb...but don't count on it...
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Post by eyesbleed on Jan 11, 2004 5:26:39 GMT
Me & all my friends bought that when it was brand-spankin' new. It was common back then to have black-lites in yer Hi-Fi, bong room..... I did. So if that was the least bit common, I think I woulda heard about it..... but nothing here. I've never heard this before, so if this does exist, it's one rare mother------.!
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Post by JoJo on Jan 11, 2004 7:07:32 GMT
Thanks Eyebleed, you're right who wouldn't have noticed that, it got played hundreds of times I bet. Who knows if this is for real, or if it is, a few got out perhaps?? Can't hurt to try emailing him I guess, but I won't get my hopes up.
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Post by LUCY on Jan 12, 2004 16:32:33 GMT
well, it could be interesting to see what this pattern is.......
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Post by LUCY on Jan 12, 2004 16:39:00 GMT
Thanks Eyebleed, you're right who wouldn't have noticed that, it got played hundreds of times I bet. Who knows if this is for real, or if it is, a few got out perhaps?? Can't hurt to try emailing him I guess, but I won't get my hopes up. we have his email....maybe someone w/ an "alternate" email account could email him and ask for a digital pix, at least, and give a heads-up to PID......just call the ball......very interesting that he's also a former space cadet....how did he obtain his copy??
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 11, 2006 9:53:43 GMT
ANyone know anymore about this mysterious matter?
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 11, 2006 9:55:51 GMT
ANyone know anymore about this mysterious matter? Does Sir George ever even lok at this site: www.george-martin.com/
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jun 11, 2006 12:10:22 GMT
I may actually have one of those glow-in-the-dark Sgt. Peppers. What I don't have is a blacklight. But if you spill Dr. Pepper on your Sgt Pepper you can see God!
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Post by LUCY on Jun 12, 2006 14:36:04 GMT
Anyone here have a Pepper album from when it was first released? This is from this URL: www.george-martin.com/read_gm.html11/8/02 12:01:48 AM 152.163.188.37 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows NT 5.0) Dear Sir: I am a physician and retired American Astronaut. In the spring of 1967, I bought a Sgt. Pepper LP in Palo Alto, California on the day the album was released. I later discovered that its black vinyl glowed with a strange yellow-green pattern when exposed to a black (i.e. UV) light. I still have it, and it still does this. I have been unable to find anyone who is aware of this phenomenon Can you shed any light on this subject? Thanks. William F. Fisher, M.D. wff1360@aol.com He's a real real dude..........http://www11.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/fisher-wf.html "NASA EXPERIENCE: Selected by NASA in May 1980, Dr. Fisher became an astronaut in August 1981. His technical assignments to date include: scientific equipment operator for high altitude research on the WB57-F aircraft (1980-1981); astronaut medical support for the first four Shuttle missions (1980-1982); astronaut office representative for Extravehicular Mobility Unit (spacesuit) and Extravehicular Activity (EVA) procedures and development, including thermal vacuum testing of the suit (1981-1984); astronaut office representative for the Payload Assist Module (PAM-D) procedures and development (1982-1983); astronaut office representative for Shuttle Mission Simulator (SMS) development (1983); support crewman for STS-8; CAPCOM for STS-8 and STS-9; Remote Manipulator System (RMS) hardware and software development team (1983); Manned Maneuvering Unit (MMU) development team (1983); Deputy Director of NASA Government-furnished and Contractor-furnished Equipment (1982-1983); Chief of Astronaut Public Appearances (1985-1987); Head, Astronaut Office Space Station Manned Systems Division, and Health Maintenance Facility (1987-1989); Astronaut Office representative on space crew selection and retention standards for Space Station (1989-1991). Dr. Fisher also practiced emergency medicine at a hospital in the greater Houston area in conjunction with his astronaut duties. Dr. Fisher was a mission specialist on STS-51I, which launched from Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on August 27, 1985. STS-51I was acknowledged as the most successful Space Shuttle mission yet flown. The crew aboard Space Shuttle Discovery deployed three communications satellites, the Navy SYNCOM IV-4, the Australian AUSSAT, and American Satellite Company's ASC-1. They also performed a successful on-orbit rendezvous with the ailing 15,400 pound SYNCOM IV-3 satellite, and two EVA's (space walks) by Dr. Fisher and Dr. van Hoften to repair it, including the longest space walk in history. Discovery completed 112 orbits of the Earth before landing at Edwards Air Force Base, California, on September 3, 1985. In completing this flight, Dr. Fisher has logged over 170 hours in space, including 11 hours and 52 minutes of EVA. Dr. Fisher left NASA in 1991 and is currently practicing full-time medicine at Humana Hospital in Webster, Texas."
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Post by Perplexed on Jun 13, 2006 5:47:46 GMT
Now THAT is a startling connection! Interesting, because I watched a 2 hour program on the PBS station here last night, fairly late, about long term space survival, i.e. measuring how long people could stay healthy and function in space, in 0 gravity, in orbit or a long mission, say, to Mars!
Point is, we've had a lot of toungiue in cheek talk about a Beatle/Nasa/space connection, and much of it far-fetched, but here, at last, is a very human, very tangible "tendril" reaching out directly to a bona-fide, former astronaut.
Way cool, and mucho thanks for finding this morsel and posting! I go to reread it now.
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Post by LUCY on Jun 30, 2006 21:41:55 GMT
A souce tells me that:
"The pattern is a bright yellow, and most closely resembles the pattern seen in a piece of marble.It is on the entire surface of the black vinyl, not on the label, and is clearly inherent within the vinyl and not just on the surface. It is only visible under UV light, and looks just like any other LP under normal lighting conditions. Only the Sgt. Pepper I purchased on the first day of issue in Palo Alto, California in 1967 show this effect. Later Sgt. Pepper releases are just like any other LP"
...this is high tech stuff in 1967..........and to what gain? not marketed or promoted....no mention from fans in over 30+ years....hmmmmm ........... Palo Alto, any one? Silicone Valley, right?
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Post by beatled on Jun 30, 2006 23:52:00 GMT
A souce tells me that: "The pattern is a bright yellow, and most closely resembles the pattern seen in a piece of marble.It is on the entire surface of the black vinyl, not on the label, and is clearly inherent within the vinyl and not just on the surface. It is only visible under UV light, and looks just like any other LP under normal lighting conditions. Only the Sgt. Pepper I purchased on the first day of issue in Palo Alto, California in 1967 show this effect. Later Sgt. Pepper releases are just like any other LP" ...this is high tech stuff in 1967..........and to what gain? not marketed or promoted....no mention from fans in over 30+ years....hmmmmm ........... Palo Alto, any one? Silicone Valley, right? You talked to the astronaut?? Well, as some have discovered, stuff like this that's left lying around can fall into the most random of hands.. Eh why not.. side one side two
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Post by byrdsmaniac on Jul 1, 2006 0:45:23 GMT
AWESOME!
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Post by LUCY on Jul 1, 2006 1:48:58 GMT
A souce tells me that: "The pattern is a bright yellow, and most closely resembles the pattern seen in a piece of marble.It is on the entire surface of the black vinyl, not on the label, and is clearly inherent within the vinyl and not just on the surface. It is only visible under UV light, and looks just like any other LP under normal lighting conditions. Only the Sgt. Pepper I purchased on the first day of issue in Palo Alto, California in 1967 show this effect. Later Sgt. Pepper releases are just like any other LP" ...this is high tech stuff in 1967..........and to what gain? not marketed or promoted....no mention from fans in over 30+ years....hmmmmm ........... Palo Alto, any one? Silicone Valley, right? You talked to the astronaut?? Well, as some have discovered, stuff like this that's left lying around can fall into the most random of hands.. Eh why not.. side one side two............but I didn't talk to him..............Lets look into the distrubution route . Can't do it now....Any takers?
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Post by LUCY on Jul 1, 2006 1:51:59 GMT
A souce tells me that: "The pattern is a bright yellow, and most closely resembles the pattern seen in a piece of marble.It is on the entire surface of the black vinyl, not on the label, and is clearly inherent within the vinyl and not just on the surface. It is only visible under UV light, and looks just like any other LP under normal lighting conditions. Only the Sgt. Pepper I purchased on the first day of issue in Palo Alto, California in 1967 show this effect. Later Sgt. Pepper releases are just like any other LP" ...this is high tech stuff in 1967..........and to what gain? not marketed or promoted....no mention from fans in over 30+ years....hmmmmm ........... Palo Alto, any one? Silicone Valley, right? You talked to the astronaut?? Well, as some have discovered, stuff like this that's left lying around can fall into the most random of hands.. Eh why not.. side one side two ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D is that yours? any impressions?
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Post by beatled on Jul 1, 2006 2:24:00 GMT
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D is that yours? any impressions? Mmm hmm.. ;D I was the first kid on my block with this new toy, ain't it cool? I guess I thought it sounded like your source was taking in the first person, no matter. Impressions? Well it's been a while since I worked at that, and truthfully it's a job left unfinished for too long, too busy etc.. Got a Paulish face right at the top on side two, in fact some see faces scattered all over. That's the micro view, the macro view IMO is that it depicts an eclipse. From the persective of where is a good question!
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Post by LUCY on Jul 1, 2006 22:49:51 GMT
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I guess I thought it sounded like your source was taking in the first person, no matter.
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It IS a direct quote from the astronaut, but I won't go into details. I'm not getting much from you photo........................
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Post by beatled on Jul 1, 2006 23:49:56 GMT
Perhaps the bigger versions would help? side one big version side two big versionI realize that it needs work with the focus for one, and I have discussed the aspect of UV filters with others. I'm not a pro at photography, but I do me best.. Surely this is a real easy one? http://*banned link*/Shoebox/Black_Light_Pepper/Paulish_Face.jpg[/img]
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Post by plastic paul on Jul 2, 2006 12:03:37 GMT
That's pretty good.
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Post by LUCY on Jul 2, 2006 12:52:13 GMT
Surely this is a real easy one? http://*banned link*/Shoebox/Black_Light_Pepper/Paulish_Face.jpg [/img][/quote] possibly ........... but I once saw Jesus's face in a used hamburger wrapper too. Or was it Elvis?. ;D Is the pattern akin to a chemical reaction?
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Post by beatled on Jul 2, 2006 14:48:31 GMT
possibly ........... but I once saw Jesus's face in a used hamburger wrapper too. Or was it Elvis?. ;D Funny, but whatever you saw in the wrapper wasn't the result of deliberate planning..Would most here agree that the entire album, from cover art to gatefold to song listing are as such? As a side note, records made from styrene instead of vinyl do glow yellow under a black light, but not with this striking pattern. I have no clue how they did it, or why it still works after almost 40 years. Hopefully it isn't because of something with a long half life?
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Post by moped on Jul 2, 2006 18:04:52 GMT
Interesting collectable. The label looks like an "MAS" code so it's not the Canadian marbled release. I'm on a notion that some folks at the pressing plant were just having fun. The pattern looks like typical marbling...they can control it to a certain degree with color placement on the blank, but the pattern itself is more random. I'm not sure any deliberate images can be gleaned: eil.com/explore/guide/vinyl_making.aspFrom what I'm reading, the "blank" is heated to near liquid before being stamped. As far as what the flourescent color is...? Would a geiger counter help? Better get a lead sleeve.
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